Leopard SATA HDD not found!

[lllsondowlll]

Hi, I have made a post about this in the past but it was soon deleted from the thread I was posting in due to read-only circumstances. I am trying to install leopard and get the ball rolling but I am faced with the following problems.
- PS/2 Keyboard and mouse not working
- SATA HDD not recognized
- Possible sound driver needed
Here are my system specs.

PC Wizard 2008 Version 1.82
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Owner: -----------
User: -----------
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2
Report Date: Monday 07 January 2008 at 20:21

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<<< System Summary >>>

> Mainboard : Unspecified SiS-755

> Chipset : SiS 755/755FX

> Processor : AMD Sempron 2500+ @ 1400 MHz

> Physical Memory : 1024 MB (1 x 1024 DDR-SDRAM )

> Video Card : Nvidia Corp GeForce FX 5500 [NV34.6]

> Audio Playback : Realtek AC97 Audio

> Hard Disk : Maxtor (204 GB)

> DVD-Rom Drive : _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A

> DVD-Rom Drive : TSSTcorp DVD-ROM SH-D162C

> DVD-Rom Drive : VO7801V mount SCSI CdRom Device

> Network Card : Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS900 10/100 Ethernet Adapter

> Network Card : Accton Technology Corp EN-1207D Fast Ethernet Adapter

> Operating System : Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2

> DirectX : Version 9.0c (December 2007)

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***** End of report *****


And for future reference, I do not have a Macintosh computer to work on so I can't accept any tutorials requiring a Macintosh computer to patch my Leopard installer. I have been working this for four days and I am very frustrated. I just want this up and running! Thanks for reading, and I appreciate any future help.

[jshanh]

There is a tutorial on the wiki about the PS2 and injecting kexts into the dvd -
check it out, I dont think you need a mac either to apply a new kext.
The PS2 issue is in the "Known Issues" section
and the kext injecting is in the "How to's" section

http://osx86.wikidot.com/start

[lllsondowlll]

Thats just it though. I have found many tutorials on insanelymac that mention the fact you need a mac for use of terminal. In the how to section it also requires use of mac terminal with little explanation of what to do before then or how to get there or what to use. It just jumps right in to terminal commands. Also the PS/2 solution is for after you install leopard. I am also left without a solution to my SATA problem. Thanks for the reply.

[ShadeZeRO]

If you have access to a windows machine, you could get a program such as " magicISO " or any other program that allows you to edit an ISO file. This will help you clean out the DVD of un-needed kexts, and inject what else you need into it.

Though, this hasn't been tested.

Have you tried installing Tubgirls 10.4.10 release?

[jshanh]

Hey, no problem, I understand the frustration, I actually gave up and spent the $50 bucks for a cheap PATA drive, but if thats not an option than keep researching, Ill do the same. Im still kinda new to this stuff too, so sorry I dont have any specific answers right now, it does look like you at least need a working mac drive to install the kexts in the dvd though, but keep trying, maybe theres a way to do it.

[lllsondowlll]

Thanks, I'm still open for solutions.

@ShadeZeRO

I have a windows PC and a ISO tool. However the ISO tool won't do me much good as only transmac can see the folder where the kext is located. I really don't need to remove any kext but when it comes to patching is it really as simple as injecting a extra file into a ISO? I'm a bit confused here. Also wouldn't that make it non-bootable? I really do need a step by step walkthrough now because I am pretty confused and I have hit a dead end. I was hoping this installation would be pretty straight forward. No I have not tried tubgirls release but isn't that Tiger? I really want leopard.

[ShadeZeRO]

Well, like I said, I've never done it in windows. So I'm not too sure.

But what I do recommend, is install tubgirls release. Then from there, you should be able to patch up the DVD like jshanh pointed out. I've never run OSX on a SATA Drive though.
I'm going to take another quick look around the forum, I'm sure I've seen this problem a few times.

[lllsondowlll]

Thank you I appreciate it. Guess I will continue tomorrow. I really want to keep this from going throughout the week if I can keep from it.

[lllsondowlll]

Still here, Still open for suggestions and hopefully a solution...

[lllsondowlll]

I don't mean to keep double posting but I have been working on this for a whole week. If there is no solution just tell me now because I really don't want to waste my time off on something I will never achieve this is urgent I really want to get this OS installed.

[naquaada]

I now had a problem with an Asus A8N-E/FM, Socket 939, nForce 4. I had a new unformatted 500GB SATA HD conntected. During booting the Leopard DVD stopped at some kind of NTFS driver. Tried several times, wasn't working. I booted from Myzar 10.4.6, this works. I'm now formatting the HD.

[crawle]

Hey lllsondowlll,
Maybe I can help you. I've got a similiar problem: My ATA-hdd can't be detected. So I can't install Leopard.
Look here: http://osx.kbot.de/comments.php?DiscussionID=24&page=1#Item_15
I'm trying to inject the kext with MagicISO. I know your problem with the bootability. You have to open MagicISO, open your image and save the Boot-Information (left to the "Bootable"-logo). Then you'll edit your image, load the Boot-File into it (there's a button next to the Bootable"-logo again) and save it (it could take for a while).
That's my way. In this moment, I'm burning the new iso, but I don't know if it'll work, because the new image is a little bit smaller than the old one. Try to do the same. Good luck!

[lllsondowlll]

Thank you so much! finally a straight answer. Let me know if it works, if it does then I will do it. But I prefer to wait for confirmation before I go wasting disks. Please let me know if it works and thanks again!

[crawle]

Oh, I'm sorry. I tried it, but the "Boot from CD" freezes. But I'm sure it's the right direction we have to follow. Leopard will be ours!

[naquaada]

Test the following: Boot from the original disc, then press F8 to stop the boot process. Eject the original disc and change it which your patched one, then continue booting. But I'm not sure if MagicISO could save an ISO containing HFS+ data correctly. UltraISO 8.x only saves the Joliet part.

[crawle]

And that's the problem! I think, there's no way to "just edit the image and save it again".
But I'll stay tuned and trying!

[naquaada]

If you have already an OSx86 system running, maybe this could work: Insert the Install DVD and open Disk Utility. Select the DVD and create an .dmg image from it, but it must be readable/writeable. Now you should be able to insert new kexts, but the permissions must be set correctly. After this you can burn the DVD again, use a RW disc for this. But I don't know if it also restores the bootloader (this is no HFS+ format), in that case you have to use the switch-disc method.

Something different: Are you using a combines Windows-MacOS-HD? I can't recommend this. If you use Disk Utility one on a HD, Windows has problems to manage them. Partition Magic 8 marks the whole harddisk as 'DEFECTIVE', with a big yellow bar which you can't move, delete or anything. The only way to make this HD useable again is to delete the MBR - and in that case you will destroy any data on the HD. Better use a single HD for MacOS and Windows, ist also easier 'cause you can use the Windows XP/Vista bootselector to switch between the OS.

[crawle]

I don't have a running OSx86-System. But maybe I can do this "live"?

I think my english ends here. :-) I'll "whisper", so nobody will ask, what (f..fu...funny) laguage it is ;-)


Naquaada, ich hab nur eine Festplatte. Vielleicht ist auch genau das das Problem, wieso sie nicht angezeigt wird. Kann das sein? Ich glaube ich werde mir noch irgendwo eine zweite billig erstehen, dann warscheinlich am besten SATA oder? So kann ich doch ohne Problem dualboot'ig Mac OS installieren, meinst du nicht?


Okay, let's go back to the good, old english language. ;-)

[naquaada]

I made an installation guide, look here:

http://osx.kbot.de/comments.php?DiscussionID=33&page=1

my mail address is also visible now.

[crawle]

Alright. Thanks naquaada.

[roisoft]

@crawle

I have installed XP via VMware, Iīve used transmac to inject the appleviaata.kext (drag & drop) into the /system/library/extensions , and all seems to be perfect, in transmac you must show the hidden files...burn the ISO and boot with -v -f

Picture: http://saved.im/oda2ngc1odi/imagen2sr4.png

[crawle]

Hey, thanks roisoft. I forgot transmac in my trouble. I'll try it and brief here.
crawle

[crawle]

Hey, transmac is ingenious!
Now, I'll burn the image and try to install Leopard. LEOPARD WILL BE MINE! Muahahahaha

[Puttabong]

Good Luck, crawle :>

[naquaada]

Ahm, crawle, what for a type of Sempron do you have, K7 or K8? Has it the SSE2 command set?

[crawle]

Sempron? Athlon! AMD Athlon 64 3200!

[naquaada]

Ah, my fault. The specs at the top of this thread are from lllsondowlll.

[crawle]

I burned the image and booted. Yeah, kext was loaded but my hdd my hd wasn't shown anyway. But I got an idea. Maybe I have to pre-format the (until now unformatted) partition, to be detect?

[crawle]

Hey guys! Still any ideas for my (not only mine) hd problem? The driver/kext isn't the problem. It's injected and loaded, but my hd doesn't want to appear. BTW: My iPod was detected! ;-)

[roisoft]

you can try with tiger, and you see if the disk utility show your hard disk

[crawle]

Reluctantly. Then I have to download (another) one. Can't there be any other cause for disappearing of my hard disk?

[roisoft]

delete ioatafamily , appleviaata and replace with this file..

[crawle]

So is it profitable to do this, roisoft? I don't want to waste my DVDs :-)
I trust you, but how sure are you about this and "why"? I'm interested at this thing :-)

[roisoft]

You have a Via chipset and for this reason, i am trying some kext from tiger release....you can try it or not, itīs your choice.

[naquaada]

Does a Tiger installation DVD detect your HD? If yes, format it from there and then try to install Leo.

[crawle]

I don't have a Tiger-DVD, but now I'll do roisoft's suggestion. Thanks, roisoft.

[crawle]

And it burns burns buuuurns ... with a kext of Tiger ... xD
(sorry for that spam ... I couldn't control myself :-} )

[naquaada]

DL an tiger image from anywhere, tubgirl is not bad for AMD...

[Puttabong]

@naquaada: he already injected the tiger kexts into his leopard dvd, and is going to test it again now.

Most of the time Tiger kexts are working, for example for my USB Controller.
Roisoft fixed USB issues with a Tiger IOUSBFamily Family kext as well. :)

[crawle]

I have to disapoint you (and me). I tried following:
- boot the dvd with -f and -v flags ... kexts were loading, loading, loading ... and ZACK my PC rebooted
- boot the dvd without any flag ... installer were loaded ... but my hd still wasn't there. :-(

@naquaada: I don't want to download Tiger, because now I know it's not the driver the problem.
@Puttabong: Any further suggestions? :-}

Thanks to you all,
Greetings

[roisoft]

People with a Via chipset sometimes must put the sata HD on port 1 and edit the AppleVIAATA.kext with VEN/DEV ID

[naquaada]

Do you have an USB HD or something else? Maybe this works.

[crawle]

I've got an iPod (and it appears) ... but my music hasn't got a place then :-}
My iPod appears, my DVD-Rom-Drive appears, but not my ATA(!)-HD.

@roisoft: I repeat: this isn't "my" thread. I have got a IDE/ATA-HD, connected by a IDE-Cable. But I've got an idea. Maybe I should change the IDE-Calbe-Ports from Rom and HD. Should I try this?

[roisoft]

You can try the Flat image for windows ...

[roisoft]

Sorry, my fault!

[roisoft]

are HD and DVD in the same IDE port?

[crawle]

No, they aren't. BTW: Is this possible?
What do you mean with Flat image?

[Puttabong]

Is it correctly mounted as master, or did you set it to slave? What does your BIOS say when you are booting?

[crawle]

Ehm, I don't know. I think, it says something like slave. But I don't know. It disappears so quickly ;-)

[roisoft]

Set the hd to Master and Dvd to slave not cable select ok? both in the same IDE port

[Puttabong]

Have a look at your HDD, get it out of your case, and check the Jumpers.
If it's set to slave, switch them to master and then try again.

[Puttabong]

http://www.pchell.com/images/masterslave.jpg

You find a description for the correct slots on the top of the HDD.

[crawle]

Oh great, thanks Puttabong. So I'll plug them both in one port and set the hd to master, the rom to slave. And then I'll try again.
See you in a few minutes ...

[naquaada]

A friend always set the 40GB-limit-jumper insted of the slave jumper as he wanted to set it to master ;)

[crawle]

I set the jumper as the intructions on the hd. My problem: My HD is now on Master, but on the Rom there was a jumper, too, without any instructions. I removed the jumper and now my Rom can't be detect (windos doesn't start to ... when windows is loading the crcdisk-driver, it freezes).
So where should be the jumper on the Rom plugged in?

[naquaada]

The most dvd-roms are jumpered Left-Cable Select, Middle-Slave, Right-Master. From the back view, of course.

[crawle]

Alright thanks, so the jumper have to be plugged in the middle pin-section. BTW: What is "Cable select?"

[roisoft]

A poor shit option, the best way for problems in sytems with multiHD-DVD :D

[crawle]

Alright thanks ;)
I'm back at MY pc. So should I try now with the tiger-kext-modified version, the viaata-kext version or the original version? ;-)

[roisoft]

1- Original , 2. Viaata, 3.tiger , god luck. :D

[crawle]

Ok, I'll try ;-)

[crawle]

roisoft, naquaada, I LOVE YOU! (not really, but nearly)
My PC is in this moment installing Leopard. I tried it at first with the Leopard DVD with VIAATA-kext, 'cause I couldn't find the "original". I booted without any flags and he detected my hd. This day is like christmas - nearly better. ;-)

Stay tuned. I'll post about my success, when the installation is complete!

:-)

[naquaada]

I whish u luck!

[roisoft]

I am happy for you crawle, welcome to the jungle!!! :D

[crawle]

Ok guys. The Installation was successful. But when I boot, and it want to boot from the hd, it says "HFs+ partition error".
What does that mean?

[Puttabong]

// rdiskXsX: you have to know the proper partition names and replace them with X.
In my case, it would rdisk1s1, first HDD, and first partition, on which leopard has been installed, which needs to be made bootable //

1 -> Launch DVD
2 -> At boot prompt, type -s (single user mode)
3 -> Type:

fdisk -e /dev/rdisk0
update
f 1
w (y)
q

4 ->
cd /usr/standalone/i386
./startupfiletool -v /dev/rdis0sX ./boot (X is your partition)

5 ->
mount -uw /
mount -t hfs /dev/disk0sX /Volumes

6 ->
bless -device /dev/disk0sX -setBoot -verbose

7 -> reboot

[roisoft]

after that, you will fix the windows boot

boot over windows dvd

open command prompt and type

diskpart

select disk 0

list partition

select partition X (X=windows partition)

active

exit

bootrec /RebuildBCD

Add installation to boot list? (yes)

diskpart

select partition Y (Y=leopard partition)

active

exit

[crawle]

Hey, thanks. I'll do that.

[naquaada]

hm, I used always fdisk -e /dev/disk1. I have two HDs in my system, the MacOS boot HD is Primary Master. The other one is a Mac Data HD, there's no Windoze.

[roisoft]

I think that crawle wants a dual boot Win/Leo in the same hd

[crawle]

Yes, I want. I've done, what Puttabong wrote and now at boot it says something like: windows is broken, launch windows-dvd ...
But Leopard doesn't boot. What shall I do?

[naquaada]

buy an IDE HD for OS X ;) Is the safest way.

[crawle]

Oh, I haven't seen roisofts instructions.
... will be in second ;-)

[roisoft]

look my previous post..

[crawle]

Great. Now Leopard Bootmanager starts. I typed nothing ... -> kernel panic, I typed cpus=1 ... -> freezes after loading kexts, I typed -x ... -> loading kexts, after that reboot
!?

[Puttabong]

What does the Kernel Panic tell us? Make a Picture of your Screen, please.

[naquaada]

GeForce kexts again? How about booting with or without -legacy? tried platform=ACPI or platform=x86pc? You can also combine the options.

[crawle]

Ok, wait ehh... a second ... or two. ;-)

[roisoft]

boot with -s

and type

mount -uw /

rm -r /system/library/extensions/Nvdaresman.kext

[crawle]

Ok, the screen when I boot without any flag and with cpus=1

[crawle]

And the screen when I start with -x (part1)

[crawle]

And the screen when I start with -x (part2)

[crawle]

Okay, shall I do your instructions anyway?

[Puttabong]

No, it seems to be a different problem other than Nvidia...

Panic (cpu 0 caller 0x0036DAC7):"Process 1 exec of /sbin/launchd failed, errno 88\n"@/volumes/disk1s2/leo_xnu-1228/bsd/kern/kern_exec.c:2884

[crawle]

I don't have a SATA-Drive. I have a ATA/IDE-Drive. ...

[crawle]

When I start in -s mode, the screen freezes (e.g. the dvd-rom can't be opened).

[crawle]

Hey guys, what's up? Please help me. :-(
@Puttabong: So what should I do? Load another kext or something else?

[roisoft]

No solutions at the moment, iīm afraid that you must wait to rev 2

if I were you I would try to install tiger , Jas or Uphuck release and install leo from tiger

[crawle]

Okay, I'll ask zephyroth for the Rev.2
Thanks guys ... :-(

[crawle]

I just tried to deactivate SATA in the Bios and now I don't get a kernel panic (either not when boot with -x) but it freezes (see picture above).
Maybe someone of you get an idea by this ...

[roisoft]

what picture?

[roisoft]

A question, How are the options of your Bios SATA devices, can you set your SATA to IDE mode?

[crawle]

Yes I can. And I can deactivate SATA completely (I did).
Should I try with SATA/IDE-Mode?

[crawle]

Ok, I'll try to...

[roisoft]

Where is the picture?

[crawle]

Here, I tried to, but no success. Here's a fresher picture.

[crawle]

Ok, one little, little question: Until Rev 2 releases, I want to install Tiger, because it's compatibler and safer. I've got the Mac OS X 10.4.8 image by JaS. Should I just reformat my Leopard partition (to HFS+ again) and install Tiger? What's about a boot manager then? Thanks, for this non-zeph-question ;-)

[roisoft]

Erase the leo partition and install tiger, maybe you will fix the bootloader after the install ok? but now thatīs easy for you crawle..:D

[crawle]

No problem for ME ... I mean ... ME ... ;-)

[crawle]

Alright guys, I installed it successful (what a wondeful OS) ...
The first time, I booted without any flag and the configurator started.

Then I had to restart (loading, loading ...).

The second time, I booted without any flag and the apple screen appeared a second and the pc rebooted (the third time, too).
I started with -x mode (alright) and with -f mode (alright, too), but two things doesn't want to run:
- my internet connection doesn't work
- my second monitor (20" plugged in about a DVI) doesn't want to work (my 19" plugged in about VGA works) (at startup, the white screen and the apple logo appears on both screens)
I think that's it. All I tested was nearly fully working. ;-)

[crawle]

I know, I'm in the wrong forum for this, but I would like to know, if it's normal with my flag-problem (see post above) and where I can find kexts?

[crawle]

Mh, it would be a pleasure, if you can help me just finding kexts. Where can I get a kext-list or something else? When I search for something like "via ethernet kext" I get my insanelymac-thread, but they don't answer to my thread (since yesterday). Please help me, I know you are geeks of this genre...

[crawle]

Hey guys,
I found something. http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/3rdPartyDrivers#Network

;-)

[roisoft]

Try with this kext, http://www.mediafire.com/?binnxlo3wn8

maybe you must add the ethernet ID

[crawle]

I got it working, thanks.
But something else: my second monitor (DVI) doesn't work (only on startup ... white screen with apple logo), should I install the nVidia package? I've got 10.4.8...