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R0GUE
04-11-2008, 01:21 AM
My system runs Mac OS X really well, however, I have one small niggling issue and that is my boot up times are somewhat long - around 2-3 minutes give or take. I suspect this could be due to the fact that NForce 5 boards don't always mix that well with OS X. Anyway, verbose boot (-v) tells me that AppleNForceATA is what's causing the delay in boot times as its constantly cycling looking for units (although it always finds 0), then eventually the system will get to the desktop. Does anyone else here experience similar issues or know of a solution? Also, let me know your average boot times from Darwin to the GUI.

Cheers,

R0GUE

WinLinMac01
04-11-2008, 01:24 AM
14 seconds. - Cheers!

Puttabong
04-11-2008, 01:31 AM
34 seconds

R0GUE
04-11-2008, 01:31 AM
WinLinMac01:14 seconds. - Cheers!Wow, now thats fast! Faster than my G5 :o

Puttabong
04-11-2008, 01:35 AM
@WinLinMac, that's incredibly fast - congratulations if it's true!

R0GUE
04-11-2008, 01:40 AM
I take it none of you guys get any AppleNForceATA issues then?

32 0 0x34602000 0x7000 0x6000 com.nvidia.driver.AppleNForceATA (1.0.3) <31 17 12>

Thats the version I'm running.

Puttabong
04-11-2008, 01:47 AM
Yes, it seems like the problem is related to your AppleNForceATA, the initialization of my disks take a second!
This is what I see when booting up:

http://www.imagehut.eu/images/41715Bild%202.png

bhast2
04-11-2008, 02:33 AM
i have the same problem my boot up time is anywhere from 2 to 4 mins
and it is because of the AppleNforceATA
Have to wait for an update from MedEvil to improve this

DoiX
04-11-2008, 02:36 AM
1 minute :))

WinLinMac01
04-11-2008, 02:39 AM
It takes 7 seconds to load the O/S while the White screen appears before it goes into the actual desktop (14 seconds includes system BIOS appearing at startup). I do believe this is fast, however, as when install multiple applications the boot time can be as high as 40 seconds in some areas. 7 seconds is with default setup. - Cheers! =)

Puttabong:It's a good utility to measure the time, isn't it? ;-) Sorry, It wasn't my purpose to show off, buddy :-)

@WinLinMac, that's incredibly fast - congratulations!!

R0GUE
04-11-2008, 03:31 AM
bhast2:i have the same problem my boot up time is anywhere from 2 to 4 mins
and it is because of the AppleNforceATA
Have to wait for an update from MedEvil to improve this
MeDevilUPDATE 23-dec-2007:
I've fixed the driver because it was not handling atapi drive(s). The detection mechanism should be much fast now, however it will slow down a bit the boot process when trying to detect drive(s) on an empty channel. (i'll try to fix this in the next release).
This kext should also resolve the "still waiting for root device".
User with MCP55 chipset: please test this kext and report if it is working!
I hope he's still working on it.

bhast2
04-11-2008, 04:37 AM
i hope so too

Ianxxx
04-11-2008, 07:27 AM
Puttabong:Yes, it seems like the problem is related to your AppleNForceATA, the initialization of my disks take a second!
This is what I see when booting up:

http://www.imagehut.eu/images/41715Bild%202.png

Don't know if it will make any difference to you, but do you have any of your controllers turned off?
I found with the older medevil kext I could skip any delay by turning all the controllers on and specifying no device in bios, turn any of the controllers off and had a big delay.

Reinekis
04-11-2008, 08:26 PM
It takes 55 seconds from "Press any key..." to full system boot :)

eMatoS
04-11-2008, 08:34 PM
from darwin to hd inactivity (with all the programs loaded) it takes 34 seconds on my Athlon 64 3000+. I also have some nforceata delay.

seren
04-12-2008, 12:40 AM
Dude your so full of your self it makes me sick. no intel macs load the Whole os that fast. Im not here to flame on you but i cant help call you out on that stupid lie.

WinLinMac01:It takes 7 seconds to load the O/S while the White screen appears before it goes into the actual desktop (14 seconds includes system BIOS appearing at startup). I do believe this is fast, however, as when install multiple applications the boot time can be as high as 40 seconds in some areas. 7 seconds is with default setup. - Cheers! =)

Puttabong:It's a good utility to measure the time, isn't it? ;-) Sorry, It wasn't my purpose to show off, buddy :-)

@WinLinMac, that's incredibly fast - congratulations!!

WinLinMac01
04-12-2008, 05:47 AM
Lol, but its true! :p Who said that Mac's were even better. Sometimes they're not as fast depending on specifications. =) However, I did state that my boot times varies between 7-14 seconds. Its fast, so don't take it to deep. Lol.

seren:Dude your so full of your self it makes me sick. no intel macs load the Whole os that fast. Im not here to flame on you but i cant help call you out on that stupid lie.

WinLinMac01:It takes 7 seconds to load the O/S while the White screen appears before it goes into the actual desktop (14 seconds includes system BIOS appearing at startup). I do believe this is fast, however, as when install multiple applications the boot time can be as high as 40 seconds in some areas. 7 seconds is with default setup. - Cheers! =)

Puttabong:It's a good utility to measure the time, isn't it? ;-) Sorry, It wasn't my purpose to show off, buddy :-)

@WinLinMac, that's incredibly fast - congratulations!!

seren
04-12-2008, 02:05 PM
no im just surprised a 3500+ and a mobo similar to mine out preforms me 5000+ at 3.0ghz with 4gb ddr2 O_o

eddie11c
04-13-2008, 04:05 AM
12 seconds on my Intel, will have to test my AMD to see if its as fast. This is to desktop with all processes finished loading.

seren
04-16-2008, 07:19 PM
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/reviews/4258725.html?page=2

iMac | $1499 20"
Boot Average startup 28.7 sec.

Gateway One | $1800
Average startup 1 min. 13 sec.

MacBook* (Penryn) | $1299
Average startup 41.6 sec.

Asus M51SR | $1299
Average startup 1 min. 51 sec.

i dont think anything under 10-15 seconds is accurate.

R0GUE
04-16-2008, 08:52 PM
Some more info here: Hackintosh vs. Mac Pro vs. MacBook Pro Benchmarks (http://is.gd/6Ah)

WinLinMac01
04-17-2008, 02:49 AM
I must the lucky one then. - Cheers, =))

seren:http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/reviews/4258725.html?page=2

iMac | $1499 20"
Boot Average startup 28.7 sec.

Gateway One | $1800
Average startup 1 min. 13 sec.

MacBook* (Penryn) | $1299
Average startup 41.6 sec.

Asus M51SR | $1299
Average startup 1 min. 51 sec.

i dont think anything under 10-15 seconds is accurate.

seren
04-17-2008, 11:58 PM
R0GUE:Some more info here: Hackintosh vs. Mac Pro vs. MacBook Pro Benchmarks (http://is.gd/6Ah)

I think this link further shows how crazy you are WinLinMac01



@WInLinMac01
i boot with 30-35 seconds on a 5000+ x2 @ 3ghz per core w/4gb ddr800 so how is it possible your hardware that's 1/3 as fast can even compete?
7 seconds on a 3500+ Venice is impossible
if its true show us what your doing that were not. and booting from sleep doesn't count.

Also your profile says your running "Nvidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB PCI Express (2) / SLI-mode [QE/CI Enabled]"
Running SLI in OS X? that's impossible.

WinLinMac01
04-18-2008, 12:04 AM
You have to be aware that when you don't have many applications installed, that does the trick too you know. Starting when the white screen appears, that took me 6 seconds last night before that white screen showed the blue screen and logged into the operating system environment.

seren: R0GUE:Some more info here: Hackintosh vs. Mac Pro vs. MacBook Pro Benchmarks (http://is.gd/6Ah)

I think this link further shows how crazy you are WinLinMac01



@WInLinMac01
i boot with 30-35 seconds on a 5000+ x2 @ 3ghz per core w/4gb ddr800 so how is it possible your hardware that's 1/3 as fast can even compete?
7 seconds on a 3500+ Venice is impossible
if its true back it up and show us what your doing that were not. and booting from sleep doesn't count.

Also your profile says your running "Nvidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB PCI Express (2) / SLI-mode [QE/CI Enabled]"
Running SLI in OS X REALLY? that's a flat out lie. are you a compulsive liar or is it me? i really wish i could get over this but it really bothers me when people lie. have some integrity.

eddie11c
04-18-2008, 12:05 AM
I think some people exagerate boot time, but really my Intel boots so quick. My AMD is about 30 seconds though :(

WinLinMac01
04-18-2008, 12:06 AM
Seriously, buddy, I'm not exaggerating here. I don't have any applications installed, I am using the O/S as it is. =)

eddie11c:I think some people exagerate boot time, but really my Intel boots so quick. My AMD is about 30 seconds though :(

seren
04-18-2008, 12:07 AM
yea and your sli probably ROCKS

WinLinMac01
04-18-2008, 12:08 AM
The board is award-winning and has its reputation, but I still doubt that is the reason. I am running a triple-boot configuration here.

seren:yea and your sli probably ROCKS

seren
04-18-2008, 12:09 AM
its known that running sli wont even start the gui.

braid
07-05-2008, 07:49 PM
I was wondering if there is some procedure that makes the boot time better.
Also I belive that some processes on osx could be removed/turned off...

any one knows anything about speed up the boot?

Iīm runnig zeph rev2 updated to 10.5.4 at venice 3500, 6600gt, 7200rpm hd , 2gb ram...

LawlessPPC
07-07-2008, 12:19 AM
@winlinmac
which nforce driver are you using i ahve 1 system with this chipset and it takes ages to boot. Also my phenom with sb600 takes way longer than this anyone know how to stop the iokitwait time out or speed this up in fact
L8rs
LawlessPPC

BigBadBen
07-07-2008, 12:14 PM
WinLinMac01:14 seconds. - Cheers!

40 sec here with 10.5.2

FoneBone
07-07-2008, 07:12 PM
52 sec with 10.5.4

cgsheen
07-07-2008, 07:35 PM
Since I moved my OSx86 10.5.3, 9.3, EFi V8 install to an internal IDE HD, boot time is 25-30 seconds.

Gigabyte 6100/430 s939 MB with Athlon 64 X2 4200+ dual core CPU
2GB PC6400 DDR2 dual channel RAM
8600GTS 256MB video card
PCI Realtek 8169 gigabit LAN card
onboard ALC880 audio

My Phenom install boots in 40-45 seconds - booting off a 60GB 4200RPM 2.5" laptop HD in a USB 2.0 enclosure:
Zephyroth 10.5.1, Chameleon EFI for Phenom, Zephyroth ASU 0.5 update to 10.5.3, 9.3 modbin kernel:

Gigabyte GA-MA78GM S2H AM2+ MB with Phenom 9550 2.2GHz quad core CPU
2GB PC8500 (1066MHz) DDR2 dual Channel RAM
onboard Radeon HD3200 IGP video
onboard RTL8111c LAN
onboard ALC889a audio

milanca
07-08-2008, 12:12 AM
15 seconds here.

(10.5.4, kernel 9.4.0, FireWire kexts removed)

Ianxxx
07-08-2008, 12:16 AM
milanca:15 seconds here.

(10.5.4, kernel 9.4.0, FireWire kexts removed)

Which kexts exactly did you remove, and is that why your boot is so quick?

milanca
07-08-2008, 12:37 AM
IOFireWireFamily.kext and IOFireWireSBP2.kext removed. I dont use any firewire ports so i removed them. It was fast booting even before, when i removed them i think it's a bit faster. Its absolutely accurate cause i used stopwatch on my cellphone, from vista bootloader when i pick Mac (hit enter) till desktop shows up.

Puttabong
07-08-2008, 11:25 AM
@milanca, I have simply disabled Firewire in BIOS, because I currently have no need for it either.

milanca
07-08-2008, 12:42 PM
Oh yes, simplier and smarter way. i did it longer way but never mind, its fine working.

LawlessPPC
07-08-2008, 12:44 PM
a reset takes about 5 secs!!!! Ooops thats my Amiga lol. Seriously got to get to the reason I dont have quick start up times of either of the systems ive got OSX on

ToroLoco
09-05-2008, 09:35 AM
Well I have noticed that my booting time increase a lot lately. It takes at least the double time than initial did. Now it takes about 2min while at the beginning it was less than a minute.

Since it is the same hardware, do you have any idea what is causing this delay? How can I decrease the time without having to make a clear install?

Vista on the same HD takes about 2 - 3 minutes.

LawlessPPC
09-17-2008, 10:28 AM
clear all caches with onyx makes a big difference on the time apps startup at. As for start up I dont know if it makes a difference Im guessing it will. I cant say for certain as i use my system as a utility more than anything so i dont use it for all kinds of progs if that makes sense

cgsheen
09-17-2008, 08:49 PM
Well I have noticed that my booting time increase a lot lately. It takes at least the double time than initial did. Now it takes about 2min while at the beginning it was less than a minute.

Since it is the same hardware, do you have any idea what is causing this delay? How can I decrease the time without having to make a clear install?

Vista on the same HD takes about 2 - 3 minutes.

OS X usually gets quicker the first several times you boot as it learns what you need and what you don't. If it's longer than 30 or 40 seconds it's probably because it's stalled momentarily looking for or not finding things it thinks it should have (looking for hardware not there? hardware that's not initializing properly?) Has anything changed?

10.5.4 continues to boot in about 25-30 seconds on my 780G / Athlon64 X2 install. Vista Home Premium x64 (64-bit) boots in 30-35 seconds on the same machine (Vista is NOT on the same HD as my OSx86 install)...

Aydinz
09-19-2008, 07:54 AM
im using

AMD Athlon X2 4200+
2GB DDR Ram

and i boot in 30secs, that seems to be the average.
is it true that with a mac ram will make it perform better then CPU i.e. the more ram i have the faster it will go?

Cheers

go2mars
09-28-2008, 08:10 AM
16 seconds once power button is pushed until Desktop appears and is responsive.

Using Compaq C714NR Laptop (Hey, it was $299!)
with iATKOS v4.1i

R0GUE
09-28-2008, 08:21 PM
There a some incredibly fast boot times being reported here. I sure hope the nforce driver gets an update soon as I still have to wait around 2 minutes from power on to desktop.

Seawane
09-28-2008, 09:41 PM
@winlinmac
Also my phenom with sb600 takes way longer than this anyone know how to stop the iokitwait time out or speed this up in fact
L8rs
LawlessPPC

ok, it's the same with me and my sb600 and phenom... this iokitwait thing... anyone found what it's for? It takes more than a minute, while my Acer laptop boots in 15 seconds. I would really like to speed it up, since my sleep is not working.

lcn0825
09-29-2008, 07:35 AM
Hi Seawane,

If your SB600 is on the following list, you can try this AppleATIATA to see if it works and speeds up the booting time.

It works on my Acer Extensa 4420-5239 but it may conflict with AppleVIAATA.

Chun-Nan

/*
* Supported devices.
*/
#define ATA_ATI_ID 0x1002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP200 0x43491002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP300 0x43691002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP300_S1 0x436e1002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP400 0x43761002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP400_S1 0x43791002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP400_S2 0x437a1002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP600 0x438c1002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP600_S1 0x43801002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP700 0x439c1002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP700_S1 0x43901002

PingunZ
10-04-2008, 10:19 AM
Just booted in 23s (darwin prompt till dock is loaded)
I'll remove some more kexts and add efi strings to boot a little faster.

edit: perhaps a new thread with some tips & tricks to speed up boot would be nice?

nfoav8or
10-05-2008, 12:49 AM
perhaps a new thread with some tips & tricks to speed up boot would be nice?

I agree. All the kexts in the Extensions folder aren't really needed; I think a good explanation of them would help individual users make the best choices of whether or not they need to keep them. I've started cleaning up my systems but haven't really been able find a good point of reference to learn from.

scififan68
10-05-2008, 06:25 PM
Osx boots on my computer in 1min and 30secs because of "IOKitWaitQuiet() timed out waiting to write kernel symbols" :( I havent found a fix for it yet either..

PingunZ
10-05-2008, 07:48 PM
I agree. All the kexts in the Extensions folder aren't really needed; I think a good explanation of them would help individual users make the best choices of whether or not they need to keep them. I've started cleaning up my systems but haven't really been able find a good point of reference to learn from.

We could start a wiki page for this, but we'll need some more people for this, who volunteers?

MegaZJ
10-06-2008, 04:20 PM
My boot times are terrible probably close to 3 minutes or so mainly because of the IOKit delay as well.

We could start a wiki page for this, but we'll need some more people for this, who volunteers?

I agree. The size of the Extensions folder seems way bigger than it needs to be. Don't know much about what devices need what but I'd like to help in anyway possible.

LawlessPPC
10-06-2008, 04:28 PM
this the single annoyance i have would be nice to see footage of these quick boots. I have probably 1 of the quicker systems in this group but the boot time is bad *8O(

nfoav8or
10-06-2008, 06:31 PM
I agree with Lawless... YouTube your boot up times if able. It may be that boards that don't need the NForce kernel extension boot that fast, but I'm very doubtful. :-/


EDIT: As far as the wiki page goes, I'm doing research on the kernel extensions but so far it is a slow process. I've been utilizing the AppleDev website to learn more. I think the page should be accessible via this forum... maybe via an editable thread where users can write in their comments but the first main post will just be edited to make everything a little cleaner. I don't think any ONE peson should take credit for this kind of thread as then it would be a community effort.

follow-on ideas?

PingunZ
10-06-2008, 06:34 PM
If you consider 20-30s fast, I'll youtube it..

Voyn1x
10-06-2008, 06:56 PM
I've just timed mine with a stopwatch :-B

From the time the darwin boot prompt reaches zero, it takes 26secs to reach my desktop. I don't receive any iokitwait messages whatsoever.

nfoav8or
10-06-2008, 07:12 PM
@Voyn1x - see, now that I believe :-d. You've got a Gygabyte board and I've seen those work that fast with my own eyes. Congrats on a great system.

Its the other boot times that hover around 15 seconds. Or those with an NForce chipset that use the kernel extension. Sometimes it just doesn't seem real enough.

R0GUE
10-06-2008, 07:35 PM
Or those with an NForce chipset that use the kernel extension. Sometimes it just doesn't seem real enough.

Which kernel extension would that be?

nfoav8or
10-06-2008, 07:58 PM
NForceATA sometimes placed within IOATAFamily

PingunZ
10-06-2008, 08:40 PM
Or those with an NForce chipset that use the kernel extension.


I have an nForce chipset and boot at 20-30s, let me know if you want a video of that.. I'd like to see WinLinMac01's monster boot :)

nfoav8or
10-08-2008, 02:03 AM
ok... so what I REALLY meant was... for me with a M2N61 board and the MCP61 northbridge... it takes forever for the IOKit to work its magic.

BTW... I would love to see your boot-ups. Not because I don't believe the majority, but because then maybe I'll be able to convince my wife to let me buy a newer board ;)! :cool:

R0GUE
10-11-2008, 01:48 PM
Well I finally managed to get my boot down from 2-3 minutes to 42 seconds! It was all to do with the IOKitWaitQuiet() timed out waiting to write kernel symbols error. After a little research into the error I went into my BIOS and turned off the PCI to IDE BusMaster and the On-chip IDE controller allowing only the SATA controller to remain in play. On rebooting I was astounded to see how fast my machine booted to the desktop. The only downside to this method is that I've now lost the ability to use my IDE DVD writer and SATA DVD writers don't seem to work well with the current nforceata driver.

mercurysquad
10-11-2008, 03:02 PM
45 seconds with prelinked kernel. Pentium M 1.73 Ghz, 5400 rpm SATA drive (no ahci) and 1.5GB RAM. That's not bad - it's faster than linux on this same machine which takes at least 75 sec or more from bootloader to hdd idle.

Aydinz
10-12-2008, 03:44 AM
ok... so what I REALLY meant was... for me with a M2N61 board and the MCP61 northbridge... it takes forever for the IOKit to work its magic.

BTW... I would love to see your boot-ups. Not because I don't believe the majority, but because then maybe I'll be able to convince my wife to let me buy a newer board ;)! :cool:

how do we record our boot ups?

nfoav8or
10-12-2008, 05:32 AM
not with the computer you are doing it with if that is what you are asking. use a digital camera and try to upload it to youtube or another video sharing site.

if your boot time is under 20 seconds, I would love to see it. please put a sound bit in the background so we can all hear that you haven't sped things up.

This isn't to prove to me you have a fast boot anymore... rather, to show off your system.

have fun with it. Cheers.

PingunZ
10-12-2008, 10:00 AM
Video of verbose boot (26-27s), usually a bit faster but never under 20s like others here.. And don't pay attention to the song in the background, just to prove that I didn't use any magic ;)

click here (http://pingunz.googlepages.com/MVI_0701.AVI)

nfoav8or
10-12-2008, 07:49 PM
@ PingunZ - Video doesn't want to load for me. The picture freezes at the boot prompt while the music continues on. Is this happening for anyone else?

P.S. nice music ;) (I know you said to ignore... but I couldn't help it... Rock out! ambient techno style!)

EDIT: oops... didn't have flip4mac installed on my macbook.... hmmm. still doesn't work..

PingunZ
10-12-2008, 09:48 PM
Try "save link as" and watch it on VLC / quicktime, if it still doesn't work I'll upload a new video, sorry for the inconvenience :)

nfoav8or
10-13-2008, 12:43 AM
mmm. yeah, I'm jealous. I've got to talk my wife into letting me buy another monitor and a new board...

Sweet dual-monitor setup... and the boot-up time is faster than my macbook!

Memorial
10-13-2008, 04:24 AM
35 seconds with from pressing the power button to full boot. I have firewire enabled, so if I kill that I can probably go even faster. This is a laptop with 1.5 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 GB ram, and SATA disk.

maxexcloo
10-13-2008, 07:42 AM
When booting off my external harddrive it takes me 5 minutes...

matroskin
10-13-2008, 12:50 PM
1 min

Leopard 10.5.5
ASUS M2N
AMD Athlon 64 3800+

PingunZ
10-13-2008, 04:21 PM
and the boot-up time is faster than my macbook!

It boots faster then my intel laptop (Asus U3S) as well, while the laptop should boot faster..
Let me know if you need more info

taikn
10-13-2008, 08:39 PM
about 26-30 seconds from bootloader, A8N-E, Athlon X2 3800+@ 2.5 Ghz.

Taisto
10-13-2008, 09:45 PM
aobut 1,5 minute, sometimes less. can`t use sleep so i have to boot it every time :(

PingunZ
10-14-2008, 07:39 PM
-can`t use sleep so i have to boot it every time :(

It's always better to boot than to resume from sleep

Voyn1x
10-14-2008, 08:04 PM
Sleep is working well for me with the new XNU kernel, using S3 hibernate too! :cool:

I've a few small issues i need to iron out with usb drives, but otherwise it seems to be fine

SHS
10-20-2008, 05:56 AM
Mine takes about a minute. Used to be about 15-20 seconds but after I installed my graphics card it seems to go to a blank screen for 45 seconds and then pops up with the desktop. Not going to argue with it and I'll leave it alone as long as the computer works.

LawlessPPC
10-26-2008, 12:46 AM
just a quick note i have drastically reduced my boot time and got rid of the iokitwait it may be a while as i have me messing with installs for days but i will be writing some usefull info on all this. Its about 30secs now i think

Seawane
10-26-2008, 12:54 AM
I changed my mobo(Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3) mainly because of problems with the USBs. That problem stayed, and also my boot time was the same. However, I did a new test install on another volume with the same distro from Lawless, and this new install boots in about 20 seconds!!! Waiting to see what the solution from Lawless is, cause I don't want to do new primary installation.

KingofChaos
10-29-2008, 07:22 PM
My boot time varies drastically. Sometimes, it only about 15 seconds, and things start right on up. Other times it stops at InterfaceNamer: timed out waiting for IOKIT to quiesce and it takes around 5 minutes. I'm running Leo4All v2 updated to 10.5.5

Seawane
11-01-2008, 12:27 AM
just a quick note i have drastically reduced my boot time and got rid of the iokitwait it may be a while as i have me messing with installs for days but i will be writing some usefull info on all this. Its about 30secs now i think

what I found, is that using the AppleATIATA instead of AppleVIAATA did not actually solve the problem with the iokitwait. But deleting the AppleonboardPCATA.kext did! So even my primary install now boots in about 15-20 seconds. So if you have the iokitwait and have the AppleonboardPCATA.kext, delete it and use AppleATIATA. Now everything is perfect(SATA in AHCI). PATA drives also recognized and mounted.

Cheers.

LawlessPPC
11-01-2008, 03:54 PM
not quite on topic but i posted this over at insanely in response to a question.

somethings i know that will effect the installation of this release and others. Alot of it comes down to your hardware. Slave and master drive configs can make a huge difference. If it wont boot (install or os) with dvd as slave then try master. Bios settings have a dramatic effect on everything. The best process if you have problems is disable everything you can in the bios eg firewire on board sound etc. Then just do an install with your chipset kext. Then once you have a booting system start to add all other kexts. I am shortly going to write a bit of a guide about everything i have found about problems with bios etc. 1 thing i have found is that depending on what your bios settings are will cause the create account loop. This goes for the majority of distros not just mine.

^fire^
11-02-2008, 09:55 AM
im booting up my acer aspire one a150x with 10.5.4 in about 25secs,
a little bit slow but i can life with it :)

Ztardust
11-02-2008, 03:36 PM
My Acer Aspire 5104Wlmi, boots up in 1 minute and 10 seconds.
It has an AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-56 processor, and is running iAtkos v4a updated to 10.5.5 by using Zephyroths AMD Software Update.

I have tried removing a lot of kexts(including all the ATA kexts, firewire & sata kexts), and just use the AppleATIATA kext found earlier in this thread, but still donīt see no real difference in boot-time.
I always get the "IOKitWaitQuiet() timed out waiting to write kernel symbols error", no matter what...
I have almost no BIOS options om my machine.

Ztardust ***

Sarge
11-02-2008, 10:00 PM
Hi Seawane,

If your SB600 is on the following list, you can try this AppleATIATA to see if it works and speeds up the booting time.

It works on my Acer Extensa 4420-5239 but it may conflict with AppleVIAATA.

Chun-Nan

/*
* Supported devices.
*/
#define ATA_ATI_ID 0x1002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP200 0x43491002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP300 0x43691002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP300_S1 0x436e1002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP400 0x43761002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP400_S1 0x43791002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP400_S2 0x437a1002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP600 0x438c1002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP600_S1 0x43801002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP700 0x439c1002
#define ATA_ATI_IXP700_S1 0x43901002


I'd figure this is my firs time posting =o
Thank you so much for posting this! I went from 1 minute 18 seconds (from pressing enter on darwin to when i see the dock and everything loaded) to a dramatic 33 seconds! lol and I want more!! just kiddin. and thanks for telling which one to get rid of Seawane :)

Before I head off I would love to say thank you ZEPH...this magnificant project came together safely. and im up to date as much as I can see around these forums.

Best Regards

shibirian
11-03-2008, 03:03 PM
My GA-MA78GM-S2H with LawlessPPC 10.5.4 boots about under 20 seconds (14 to be more precise - stopped that with my watch).

Maybe it's the fast CL4 memory or else, I dunno. I also erased the Extensions.mkext (the first thing I always do with a new Rig) and cleaned the final setup thoroughly with Onyx. Before I did that boot time for the OS was about 2 minutes.

Of course, boot time is from where the OS begins to load - with turning the machine on with a cold start it's total time is roughly 40 seconds (darn ACPI load time). ;)

Sarge
11-06-2008, 09:25 PM
I was wondering if there was a tip to shorten the blue screen? Cause that takes up most of the time needed to start

CamEdwardo
11-11-2008, 11:31 PM
like 20 seconds total, takes alot longer now due to the kexts for my graphics card:-/

coxorange
11-21-2008, 06:54 PM
20 seconds here, but since i've tried the bootcamp possibility, leopard loads ntfs drivers at startup, in fact the time increased by 8 seconds :'( :)

~coxorange

mattat119
11-28-2009, 11:33 AM
HI

I have ideneb 10.5.4 on my compaq nx5000 notebook. Bootup was taking 5 mins - hanging on:
time out waiting for iokit to quiesce

I removed iopccardfamily.kext (pcmcia driver I believe). Now my bootup is under 1 min

Imkantus
11-28-2009, 02:17 PM
What's your average boot up time?Complete boot-up with using 32-Bit Kernel & Extensions takes 32 seconds here - waking up from deep sleep just about 8 - so I am used to hibernate instead of shutdown. :D

alfaromeo303
01-20-2010, 10:35 AM
45 seconds fully operational

lanceomni
01-23-2010, 12:16 AM
Bare Install:
1 Minute 11.81 Seconds
24.59 Seconds Using modified IOATAFamily

After Applications:
31.45 Seconds Using modified IOATAFamily

SportsGuy
01-23-2010, 12:47 AM
I would swear that my boot time in 10.5 was 10-15 seconds. It was really unbelievably fast. now my boot time for 10.6 is about 25 seconds

I don't use voodoohda.kext, which usually takes most of my boot time

hey lanceomni, how do you modify IOATAFamily?