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Old 05-01-2009, 02:14 AM
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whats the benifets? is it like 9.6.0 Vanillia? does this mean we can boot retail? im very confused lol

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Old 05-01-2009, 04:01 PM
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whats the benifets? is it like 9.6.0 Vanillia? does this mean we can boot retail? im very confused lol
It's just like Voodoo but with improvements...
For more info look at the download site...
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Old 05-01-2009, 04:02 PM
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Works fine here, except I had kernel panic yesterday, after long time, but not sure what caused it, as both, Firefox and kernel was updated before that. Only Firefox was running and kernel panic error said it has something with the FF...
Did it happen only once or did it happen each time Firefox was running?
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Old 05-01-2009, 11:20 PM
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Did it happen only once or did it happen each time Firefox was running?
Fortunately only once.
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Old 05-02-2009, 12:51 AM
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Fortunately only once.
OK then I doubt it is a kernel bug...
It may just have been "bad luck"...
Lets hope it doesn't happen again...
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:04 AM
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yea i went to the google code web page but it there wasn't any info about it... it said the newest version was 9.5.0 not 9.6.0

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Old 05-02-2009, 02:11 AM
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yea i went to the google code web page but it there wasn't any info about it... it said the newest version was 9.5.0 not 9.6.0
Yeah I know... they still haven't completed their port to 9.6.0...
I'll beat them to the punch too with 9.7.0 if I get the chance
It is a matter of honour since some of the Voodoo team didn't threat me very well...
You fix up the warnings in the VoodooPS2 sources and give them the diffs (actually first the sources but next they nagged for the diffs...) and all they did was criticize...
They also argued that one big project over 6 smaller ones was "harder to debug"...
Man are you devs or not is the question I tend to have then...
It makes no difference as one can switch the target etc...
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:26 PM
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Before I start, I want you to know that I wouldn't reply if the drama wasn't started by the above poster, but I couldn't just let this go unanswered.
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Yeah I know... they still haven't completed their port to 9.6.0...
I'll beat them to the punch too with 9.7.0 if I get the chance
It is a matter of honour since some of the Voodoo team didn't threat me very well...
You fix up the warnings in the VoodooPS2 sources and give them the diffs (actually first the sources but next they nagged for the diffs...) and all they did was criticize...
They also argued that one big project over 6 smaller ones was "harder to debug"...
Man are you devs or not is the question I tend to have then...
It makes no difference as one can switch the target etc...
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I'm really wondering as to what level you can lower yourself to, to say what you say, and release stuff the way you do.

Voodoo didn't complete the port to 9.6.0 because it takes "time" and "effort" (which isn't available) to do it "properly", you think after the work they did, they can't just go and make the fast dirty port you did? Are you going to say "Man are you devs or not is the question I tend to have then..." because of that too?

What is this attitude of "beat to the punch" from you? Is it all about that for you? /shame

I see people doing "real" work, the Voodoo kernel, VoodooPower..., the IOPCIFamily/IOUSBFamily.. kext mods, and I see you take that, fix warnings (most of the time unproperly), retag/rebrand, increment the version, and make it look like an update to the official releases. /shame

You never replied to direct technical questions concerning your additions to the voodoo kernel/projects, and the explanation is obviously because you have no idea. You would have answered otherwise, wouldn't you?

The Voodoo group (specifically, Dense here on this post) contacted you (twice if not more) and invited you to join us on IRC to have a little chat about how to get working together, as we did with few others which are with us now, joined the efforts together, and you already have seen the fruits of it, but you didn't accept to come (IIRC you didn't even reply).

Why? my guess is you don't want to join a group of people, you prefer to be on your own, because all you care about is some childish fame which you obviously have got it on the InsanelyMac forum (and apparently, here too).

About your "stripped" version of the VPS2 story, why not post the link to the real source, so people know what happens?
http://forum.voodooprojects.org/inde...pic,168.0.html

I read that this forum isn't like InsanelyMac, so I'm sure this post will be here when I check back.

I'm going to ask the people who read this not to reply (except AnV, if he wants), so the drama doesn't grow, and the flaming doesn't start, please?

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Old 05-05-2009, 09:19 PM
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"properly"
First of all last release is more than proper...
The technical questions about my port?
Ask away... I've never seen any message directed at me with any questions nor have I ever received a mail stating any q's about it...
My point is not a "beat to the puch" attitude... it is to make something better with more features...
Retagging and rebranding only occurs if it is either something I made or it isn't desired to keep that name (like with the kernel after integration of the decrypter...)
And it is my thought that fixing warnings up and perfecting code will result in a faster and better product (I've seen this proven many times...) also I find it important to use the latest toolset and some updated libraries from the kernel...
Next the IOPCIFamily and IOUSBFamily releases are slightly different from the others and in case of the IOUSBFamily parts it does state for PCGenUSBEHCI the proper copyrights (me and the other author...)
You are wrong stating that I don't want to join a group of people and you are wrong stating that I don't allready work togheter with some...
Also fast and dirty port? the first two ones: yes... the last 2: absolutely not...

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You would have answered otherwise, wouldn't you?
I've never even noticed the posts... how could I have replied then?

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The Voodoo group (specifically, Dense here on this post)
If I click that link I do not even get a request or anything...
Just the main page and page 3 selected below...

But I don't want there to be any further future misunderstandings between us though...
If you should have any questions you should mail me for them...
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Old 05-05-2009, 10:10 PM
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First of all last release is more than proper...
The technical questions about my port?
Ask away... I've never seen any message directed at me with any questions nor have I ever received a mail stating any q's about it...
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I've never even noticed the posts... how could I have replied then?


If I click that link I do not even get a request or anything...
Just the main page and page 3 selected below...
If you let the post I linked to finish loading, you'll see it, and actually the are questions asked in that same page, and you ignored them, questions about adding HPET back (no proper answer from you), I even asked you about the "proper" Apple ID you added to Chameleon 1.0.11 (I've not seen anything in the first sources you released as 1.0.12 that is worthy of adding your copyright). which made many people who understand what programming is think of it as re-tagging.

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My point is not a "beat to the puch" attitude... it is to make something better with more features...
Since you like the proper way of things, there is a proper way of expressing your point, but it happens that people reveal what they really think and have inside.

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And it is my thought that fixing warnings up and perfecting code will result in a faster and better product (I've seen this proven many times...) also I find it important to use the latest toolset and some updated libraries from the kernel...
I agree that fixing and perfecting code is wanted, but anyone who knows the basics of coding will agree that in many (not all), of what you've released, lacks any real improvements, and I have yet to see a real proof of that, and what you claim to be faster.
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Next the IOPCIFamily and IOUSBFamily releases are slightly different from the others and in case of the IOUSBFamily parts it does state for PCGenUSBEHCI the proper copyrights (me and the other author...)
I've checked some of the first mods you posted for IOPCIFamily, maybe that was your first "work", I was disappointed.

And what shows that you usually have no idea what you're doing is something like this; (quoting you):
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I could also do that mod of the sources for you... if you send or PM me the patches...
If you did modify the sources and know what you did, you wouldn't ask for patches, because you already have them, /dang

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You are wrong stating that I don't want to join a group of people and you are wrong stating that I don't allready work togheter with some...
It's an assumption anyone would make, because all your releases don't mention that you've worked with others, and don't tell about any group.

It's just your regular way of releasing;
NEW (lack of info..) works a lot better (no info..)
Enjoy (a smiley showing confidence)
Edit: fixed more issue (no idea what..)

You get asked each time what's new, what improvements does it bring, and then there is the usual kind of replies;
fixed warnings, perfecting the code, proper Apple IDs, and then something that may look useful (but unfortunately, not after checking the code...)
You, now, need to do much more to get your stuff working with this solution..

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But I don't want there to be any further future misunderstandings between us though...
I think there is big misunderstanding from your side, specially what happened with VPS2 (you didn't comment about it)
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Is there anything to misunderstand from that?

And I have to say that you can do better than this.



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