It is for supplemental patches which someone claims to have...
I would gladly check them and improve the IOUSBFamily if they really are good...

Also did I not make a new PPF generation and applying tool?
That one is fully mine... so...

Also the point of putting the HPET code back in the kernel is simple...
It also has emulation of HPET code added which allows the standard timers and so on to be used for people without HPET...
In essence thus emulating HPET with an older (V1.1 max) AppleHPET.kext...

You've just confirmed you have no idea what it is.

That's why I was fair and used words like "most" and "not all", is there anything else? anything "new" you brought to the scene? any issues you've fixed that were not fixed before? I would be glad to hear about that.

I give up on getting any "proper" answers from you. If you expect me to understand the "..." (dots), I'm sorry, It's over my head and level of knowledge.

I give up on trying to reply to you.

A propper manual/description of your works Andy would improve a lot.

To my disapointment (for the better or worse) I must say I stopped checking out your developments, cos I am really left in the dark
and only can figur some out when I read the next 10 or 20 experiances testers post.

I liked the fact that your 9.6 kernel (back on AMD) saved me the 9.5 system.kext/seatbelt,
but I then really lost track. Version here, version there. What's this for? What's that for?

I simply switched back to the original and ignored all else you done. Shame really.
Maybe some stuff would have improved something. I'll never know...

Well I've included full description of the kernels features lately...
You can read them and get the latest release here:
http://laptopneeds.forumotion.co.uk/...el-v14-t10.htm

Thats nice, but there is a slight misunderstanding here. It is really about how you release.
One might be interested to try someting, but on a reasonable efford basesis.

Remember OS X is very much liked cos of it's useabillity, even if we are putting our selfs there through hackintoshes.

Great products allways have a great useabillity and not just 1 million features.

Like I said, me personally: I won't be looking into things anymore, even when they might be beneficial, cos I been put off by this release policy and don't know what's next. Others might feel the same.

Due to my switch to an Intel machine, there is really no need for another kernel for me personally. But I surely will try the original new Voodoo kernel when(ever) it comes out, cos even though it's not here now, I already know what I'll be getting.


(Also, manual link: one might not want to become a member of another forum, to get a manual of something he or she gets from the "release" forum)

hmm its so easy to answer any question. Anyone can put the question in " " and then give an answer. In this thread here.. I have seen questions being asked yet a very clear reply of not wanting to answer the questions. If it was me maybe I lets say start to get a little pissed and would say.. fine .. this is what I have done.. blah blah blah.. yet here I am still trying to guess at what has really been changed. I know less about all this yet even I can tell you what has and has not been changed... anyway.

ME.. I feel ANYONE that came before and started something, deserves credit. But is not coming out with a 9.7 kernel nothing more than ADDING something to what was already there? Now ME I would have to rewrite something and then say .. its mine.. but thats just me. If I added to something that I had nothing to do with makeing I would ALWAYS give credit to those 1ST!.

Andy, ur kernel is working nice here, never crashed like 9.5.0 that crashed when I was browsing the net, but its crashing on Chess

Im using ur v1.1

thanks. Any suggestions.

Latest version is 1.4, so you may want to upgrade before asking and see if problem is gone. :-)

Andy, thankfully you've finally provided an answer, about which I have asked you at least 3 times before.

Now, my assessment of your answer: if you had any kind of understanding of the Voodoo kernel changes, or even the xnu kernel only, you would know that we expressly got rid of HPET emulation of the PIT because it added to the complexity, was very poorly written, and most importantly: was completely unnecessary. Are you aware of the fact that the HPET is not used for anything at all since 10.5.6? What then, is the point of emulating it?

I don't mean to sound rude or arrogant, but your reason for putting HPET back is simply wrong. Had you discussed this with us beforehand, you'd have avoided having to add several new bootflags and asking people to use your customized AppleHPET.kext and what not.

Andy: You said you'd like to end any misunderstandings and start contributing as a team player. For starters, you can try to fix this problem with Chess. As a hint: it is an almost trivial fix which requires changing barely 4-5 lines. Sadly I've not had time to actually test it (but Turbo has verified the fix should work). You are welcome to try it and send a patch.

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