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mindlessmissy 04-27-2012 11:46 PM

I'm pretty sure they will ...

lunfai 04-28-2012 08:44 AM

They have to release the source to the kernel, but it won't be released until two weeks or month after mountain lion is released to the public. There's no point releasing unfinished kernels from their point of view.

Unrealized 04-28-2012 10:00 AM

Yeah, they release then after the final release, so you won't be running Mountain Lion previews unless you use supported hardware.

felipeunix 04-29-2012 02:46 AM

No news about the applications freezing? :o
I did not want to go back to ubuntu ...

tejaswi.rohit 04-29-2012 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felipeunix (Post 57279)
No news about the applications freezing? :o
I did not want to go back to ubuntu ...

Exactly... Devs please please please try to fix it :) (Y):o

A3yu 04-30-2012 03:54 PM

Booting -force 64 seems let all apps works , except for finder(pag40)in some cases

todesto 04-30-2012 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A3yu (Post 57294)
Booting -force 64 seems let all apps works , except for finder(pag40)in some cases

Which kernel did you use? What is your system spec?
It doesn't crash after 10 min?

A3yu 04-30-2012 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by todesto (Post 57295)
Which kernel did you use? What is your system spec?
It doesn't crash after 10 min?

Processore : AMD Athlon II X2 250 Dual Core 3.00 GHz
Mobo: ASRock N68C-S UCC | Gpu : ATI HD 5670 1GB DDR5 | Audio(integrato)
Chipset : Nvidia nForce 630a
Ram: 2x2 GB DDR2/800 | Dvd : LG ide DVD-burner
HD: Western Digital 500 Gb 7200 RPM Sata OS : Snow Leopard 10.6.8

i've used the first version of the kernel

No with only - legacy after 10 minutes apps stop working (not all).
WIth mi - force64 i've tested for up 30 minutes and all'apps works..execept for the finder that dont copy or delete file some times. The pc with -force64 seems a bit slower anyway :(

A3yu 04-30-2012 06:04 PM

nah..false alarm..now app still don't work...

felipeunix 04-30-2012 06:15 PM

with "-legacy"

System starts at around 32 bits, but the 64-bit applications freeze after a few minutes.

without "-legacy"

System starts at around 64 bits, but NO 32-bit application starts.

justinster123 05-01-2012 01:51 AM

I compiled two new kernels...... 32 + 64-bit
 
I used the diff from the original creator and some of anv's source diffs, the 64-bit kernel gives the acpi kernel panic here, but anyone wanting to test both, please try, and let me know if xpchelper and stuff is any better at all, or if it works better, I took all day, I hope this works :')
please let me know anything different, if it works faster, or anything, I can't really test, I'd love to see other's results :)
I also attempted to fix some RTC issues, and the AMD stuff, the L2 cache seems to be working (detection), but please test :)
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ca8xkkj2xd32y93

felipeunix 05-01-2012 02:42 AM

Testing .. then allowed results!

Thank you in advance ^^

justinster123 05-01-2012 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felipeunix (Post 57306)
Testing .. then allowed results!

Thank you in advance ^^

Thanks! :)
"Thanks so much for your reply, I hope it helps in some way, the 64-bit kernel (pure) always kp on acpi, but I know that's how it was for snow leopard too, maybe it will work for some processors, but I am currently using 32-bit kernel, and system seems smooth, although the only thing is I am doing school work, so I don't want to take chances leaving XPCHelper running, you know?
maybe this will fix it, maybe not "

felipeunix 05-01-2012 03:38 AM

Results that got here:

x64

I could not even start. Need some flag in particular?

x86

with "-legacy" system starts! And with considerably higher performance!

So far no application froze!

config:

FX-8120
ASUS M5A97-EVO

Congratulations on your work! Very good!
You can count on me to test what you need, I am willing to help as you can!

justinster123 05-01-2012 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felipeunix (Post 57309)
Results that got here:

x64

I could not even start. Need some flag in particular?

x86

with "-legacy" system starts! And with considerably higher performance!

So far no application froze!

config:

FX-8120
ASUS M5A97-EVO

Congratulations on your work! Very good!
You can count on me to test what you need, I am willing to help as you can!

WOAH, WAIT, IT IS BETTER?!?!
OMFG Now i know that I did NOT spend my entire day doing it for nothing :')
THANKS SO MUCH FOR TESTING!!!!! :'))))
Please let me know your results as you continue :)

lunfai 05-01-2012 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinster123 (Post 57310)
WOAH, WAIT, IT IS BETTER?!?!
OMFG Now i know that I did NOT spend my entire day doing it for nothing :')
THANKS SO MUCH FOR TESTING!!!!! :'))))
Please let me know your results as you continue :)

I thought if he has a bulldozer fx processer he can run the amd kernel natively anyway in 64 bit mode.

justinster123 05-01-2012 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lunfai (Post 57311)
I thought if he has a bulldozer fx processer he can run the amd kernel natively anyway in 64 bit mode.

yes but in 64-bit mode 32-bit apps never work

justinster123 05-01-2012 05:10 AM

@felipeunix you could try booting in 32-bit kernelspace, by merging the 32-bit and 64-bit into universal, and use 64-bit userspace,
terminal
lipo -create mach_kernel_64 mach_kernel_32 -output mach_kernel

felipeunix 05-01-2012 05:13 AM

in 32 bit mode, some 64-bit applications, still insist on freezing ..

but it is taking longer for that to happen ..

I need sleep now, I'm very tired when morning will continue testing.

ghostec 05-01-2012 07:41 AM

I'm trying to install it in VMWare Workstation 8, but I'm getting an error.

Error:

A fault has occurred causing a virtual CPU to enter the shutdown state. If this fault had occurred outside of a virtual machine, it would have caused the physical machine to restart. The shutdown state can be reached by incorrectly configuring the virtual machine, a bug in the guest operating system, or a problem in VMware Workstation.Click OK to restart the virtual machine or Cancel to power off the virtual machine.

Tested a lot of flags combinations.. -legacy, -f, arch=i386, -force64, -s, -x, maxmem=4096.. Sometimes without one or another.

I did the procedure Snow Leopard in a disk, created another virtual disk, installed iAtkos in the new disk, tested the newest kernel above and the other ones, installed chameleon 2.1 and the newest from kexts.com.. But I'm stuck at this point.

Can anyone help me?

felipeunix 05-01-2012 07:48 AM

I could not sleep so I went back to test LOL

match_kernel_32

no flags, it is a bit unstable.
with "-force64" already starts with all 64-bit applications and the performance is really great!

even after a long time ..

ghostec 05-01-2012 08:24 AM

The programs are still crashing after some time?

ghostec 05-01-2012 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostec (Post 57315)
I'm trying to install it in VMWare Workstation 8, but I'm getting an error.

Error:

A fault has occurred causing a virtual CPU to enter the shutdown state. If this fault had occurred outside of a virtual machine, it would have caused the physical machine to restart. The shutdown state can be reached by incorrectly configuring the virtual machine, a bug in the guest operating system, or a problem in VMware Workstation.Click OK to restart the virtual machine or Cancel to power off the virtual machine.

Tested a lot of flags combinations.. -legacy, -f, arch=i386, -force64, -s, -x, maxmem=4096.. Sometimes without one or another.

I did the procedure Snow Leopard in a disk, created another virtual disk, installed iAtkos in the new disk, tested the newest kernel above and the other ones, installed chameleon 2.1 and the newest from kexts.com.. But I'm stuck at this point.

Can anyone help me?

I just made it! I can't say about stability yet because I just logged in..

The solution (odd) was to download the bootcd: http://www.osx86.net/view/1805-bootcd_for_lion.html

My first try ended in success so I can't filter the flags I've tried: -legacy arch=i386 -force64 -v -f

My mouse isn't working, though =/ And is pretty hard to install vmware tools with only my keyboard, I'm not used to OSX hotkeys..

But if someone has a better solution than the bootcd I will be very glad in hearing.

A3yu 05-01-2012 11:58 AM

i don't know if it is a good thing but..with this new kernl xbench execute thread test that with the previous kernel didn't work

A3yu 05-01-2012 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinster123 (Post 57305)
I used the diff from the original creator and some of anv's source diffs, the 64-bit kernel gives the acpi kernel panic here, but anyone wanting to test both, please try, and let me know if xpchelper and stuff is any better at all, or if it works better, I took all day, I hope this works :')
please let me know anything different, if it works faster, or anything, I can't really test, I'd love to see other's results :)
I also attempted to fix some RTC issues, and the AMD stuff, the L2 cache seems to be working (detection), but please test :)
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ca8xkkj2xd32y93

All apps works with 32 bit kernel after up 1 hour then i don't know i'm still testing now XD...64 bit kernel don't boot (athlon XII 250)

apparently..after some rebooting app stop working again >_>

ryman 05-01-2012 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felipeunix (Post 57316)
I could not sleep so I went back to test LOL

match_kernel_32

no flags, it is a bit unstable.
with "-force64" already starts with all 64-bit applications and the performance is really great!

even after a long time ..

-force64 with 32bit Kernel? Does not work for me... Booting stops at BSD tipt: Disk0s1 Major 14 minor 2
USBF: 13:32 AppleUSBOHCI[0xd74e800]::CheckSleepCapability - controller will be unloaded across sleep


Ans help?

A3yu 05-01-2012 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryman (Post 57321)
-force64 with 32bit Kernel? Does not work for me... Booting stops at BSD tipt: Disk0s1 Major 14 minor 2
USBF: 13:32 AppleUSBOHCI[0xd74e800]::CheckSleepCapability - controller will be unloaded across sleep


Ans help?

Same for me

ghostec 05-01-2012 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryman (Post 57321)
-force64 with 32bit Kernel? Does not work for me... Booting stops at BSD tipt: Disk0s1 Major 14 minor 2
USBF: 13:32 AppleUSBOHCI[0xd74e800]::CheckSleepCapability - controller will be unloaded across sleep


Ans help?

Same here, when I try to use the march_kernel_32 with -force64 flag I get stuck close to that part in a line "SAM read or write failed", something like this.. I'm trying under VMware, though.

ryman 05-01-2012 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felipeunix (Post 57316)
I could not sleep so I went back to test LOL

match_kernel_32

no flags, it is a bit unstable.
with "-force64" already starts with all 64-bit applications and the performance is really great!

even after a long time ..

Could you please upload your org.chameleon.Boot.plist? Thx

felipeunix 05-01-2012 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryman (Post 57321)
-force64 with 32bit Kernel? Does not work for me... Booting stops at BSD tipt: Disk0s1 Major 14 minor 2
USBF: 13:32 AppleUSBOHCI[0xd74e800]::CheckSleepCapability - controller will be unloaded across sleep


Ans help?

@rayman @ A3yu @ghostec :

Try using this patch to fix. It is for Snow, but it served very well here.

https://rapidshare.com/#!download|20...8.pkg.zip|1507


@rayman

There is nothing more in my boot.plist

<key>Default Partition</key>
<string>hd(0,2)</string>
<key>GraphicsEnabler</key>
<string>Yes</string>
<key>Kernel</key>
<string>mach_kernel</string>
<key>Kernel Flags</key>
<string>npci=0x3000 -force64</string>
<key>Timeout</key>
<string>2</string>

ryman 05-01-2012 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felipeunix (Post 57325)
@rayman @ A3yu @ghostec :

Try using this patch to fix. It is for Snow, but it served very well here.

https://rapidshare.com/#!download|203|4093076742|IOUSBFamily-378.pkg.zip|1507


@rayman

There is nothing more in my boot.plist

<key>Default Partition</key>
<string>hd(0,2)</string>
<key>GraphicsEnabler</key>
<string>Yes</string>
<key>Kernel</key>
<string>mach_kernel</string>
<key>Kernel Flags</key>
<string>npci=0x3000 -force64</string>
<key>Timeout</key>
<string>2</string>


Mh. Doesnt work... Now I get the USBF line 3 times...

Reboot without -force64 works but USB Mass Strorage does not work anymore. Is there a backup folder anywhere?

aaqib7 05-01-2012 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinster123 (Post 57305)
I used the diff from the original creator and some of anv's source diffs, the 64-bit kernel gives the acpi kernel panic here, but anyone wanting to test both, please try, and let me know if xpchelper and stuff is any better at all, or if it works better, I took all day, I hope this works :')
please let me know anything different, if it works faster, or anything, I can't really test, I'd love to see other's results :)
I also attempted to fix some RTC issues, and the AMD stuff, the L2 cache seems to be working (detection), but please test :)
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ca8xkkj2xd32y93

Currently, im testing in 32 bit mode - > After 10minutes or so.. the 32 Bit application are fine. But the 64 bit applications dont load up. Keep up the good work though :) and im going to try the 64 bit now.

aaqib7 05-01-2012 03:59 PM

Its much more stable than the previous kernel but after 10minutes or so its just the 64 bit applications wont load - everything else works fine.(All the 32bits).
Itunes, Facetime etc - are 64bit so they stop working.

justinster123 05-01-2012 04:13 PM

I'm glad we made at least some kind of progress, I couldn't have done it without any of the original devs, thanks.
I'm going to look at the source and give my diff to R:A:W:86 (sorry if misspelt)
seems I need to replace some panic strings to printf or else kp for pure 64-bit on amds....

justinster123 05-01-2012 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaqib7 (Post 57328)
Its much more stable than the previous kernel but after 10minutes or so its just the 64 bit applications wont load - everything else works fine.(All the 32bits).
Itunes, Facetime etc - are 64bit so they stop working.

Wait on the other kernel the original ones that bronzovka made?

before my kernel, all apps both 64-bit and 32-bit stopped working, now it's just the 64-bit apps?
this means that 32-bit apps are fixed for you?

I'll look into the source some more
seems that xpchelper crashes due to incorrect power management of the CPU and not detecting the model etc properly,
I always get the erro during boot
"hw.sysmem" failed assuming > 1GB
and power management may be incomplete or unsupported
I'll keep looking when I get home

justinster123 05-01-2012 04:41 PM

BTW anyone know of a voodoohda that works for alc662 asus m2n68-am se2 that DOESN'T cause audio choppiness?

I've tried numerous hdaenabler and alc662, it detects in system profiler,
but won't show any devices in system preferences......

felipeunix 05-01-2012 05:01 PM

@rayman:

only replaces the kexts: "IOUSBFamily" "IOUSBMassStorageClass"

dmg contains the lion's this kext, you can get directly from the dmg.

If used these modified kexts, same thing.
One need only replace them

aaqib7 05-01-2012 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinster123 (Post 57330)
Wait on the other kernel the original ones that bronzovka made?

before my kernel, all apps both 64-bit and 32-bit stopped working, now it's just the 64-bit apps?
this means that 32-bit apps are fixed for you?

I'll look into the source some more
seems that xpchelper crashes due to incorrect power management of the CPU and not detecting the model etc properly,
I always get the erro during boot
"hw.sysmem" failed assuming > 1GB
and power management may be incomplete or unsupported
I'll keep looking when I get home

Yeh, 32 bit apps work fine :) except the 64 bit apps which freeze after 10minutes or so, so you cant open them up. In the previous version (bronzovka) his kernel freezes both 32bit and 64bit for me sometimes. But, in this one, its the 64bit application I have a problem with. Im not able to boot with 64bit? It restart my pc for some reason? Do you know why?

felipeunix 05-01-2012 05:07 PM

justinster123:

X64 is working great!

Just do not open the x86 apps, but I think we can live without them :D

aaqib7 05-01-2012 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinster123 (Post 57331)
BTW anyone know of a voodoohda that works for alc662 asus m2n68-am se2 that DOESN'T cause audio choppiness?

I've tried numerous hdaenabler and alc662, it detects in system profiler,
but won't show any devices in system preferences......

I have the same audio card 'alc662' but i havent configured it yet for Lion.
You could try this: http://www.osx86.net/downloads.php?do=file&id=1629 - because I think it supports 'alc662' for lion.

aaqib7 05-01-2012 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felipeunix (Post 57334)
justinster123:

X64 is working great!

Just do not open the x86 apps, but I think we can live without them :D

Can i ask, how did you boot into 64 bit mode? What commands did you enter? because its not working for me even though my CPU is 64bit enabled. Thanks

felipeunix 05-01-2012 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaqib7 (Post 57336)
Can i ask, how did you boot into 64 bit mode? What commands did you enter? because its not working for me even though my CPU is 64bit enabled. Thanks

maybe I expressed myself poorly.

With (mach_kernel_32)
just use the flags: npci=0x3000-force64

the system keeps stable even after a long time.
Only 32-bit apps do not open. But 64-bit apps work perfectly!

Sorry for the bad English, I'm Brazilian ^_^

ryman 05-01-2012 05:22 PM

Mh I downloaded the latest IOUSBFamaly (1163). Mass Storage works again YOHO! But still I can not boot with -force64. Without it everything is like it was with Kernel V4. Itunes, Textedit and the other apps crash after a few minutes, orginal Finder dont work.

Here is a screenshot of booting with -force64:
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4155/imag0245d.jpg

felipeunix 05-01-2012 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryman (Post 57338)
Mh I downloaded the latest IOUSBFamaly (1163). Mass Storage works again YOHO! But I can stil not boot with -force64. Without it erything is like it was with Kernel V4. Itunes, Textedit and the other apps crash after a few minutes, orginal Finder dont work.

To use the patch finder.
http://www.mediafire.com/?ib5x07qbj7llvhj

If you do not use "-legacy" 32 bit apps will not work at all!

aaqib7 05-01-2012 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felipeunix (Post 57337)
maybe I expressed myself poorly.

With (mach_kernel_32)
just use the flags: npci=0x3000-force64

the system keeps stable even after a long time.
Only 32-bit apps do not open. But 64-bit apps work perfectly!

Sorry for the bad English, I'm Brazilian ^_^

Thanks but im still unable to boot in 64bit mode using -force64? It only boots using -legacy?
Using -legacy - all 32 bit apps work and 64bit apps but after 10min the 64bit apps crash and dont work but the 32 bit apps work fine.
If I boot using -force64 - it doesnt boot to Lion. Thanks for your help mate.

ryman 05-01-2012 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felipeunix (Post 57340)
To use the patch finder.
http://www.mediafire.com/?ib5x07qbj7llvhj

If you do not use "-legacy" 32 bit apps will not work at all!


i dont use any kernelflag and 32bit apps work perfekt. i use the dp2 finder.

ryman 05-01-2012 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaqib7 (Post 57341)
Thanks but im still unable to boot in 64bit mode using -force64? It only boots using -legacy?
Using -legacy - all 32 bit apps work and 64bit apps but after 10min the 64bit apps crash and dont work but the 32 bit apps work fine.
If I boot using -force64 - it doesnt boot to Lion. Thanks for your help mate.

Same here:(

R:A:W:X86 05-01-2012 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felipeunix (Post 57337)
maybe I expressed myself poorly.

With (mach_kernel_32)
just use the flags: npci=0x3000-force64

the system keeps stable even after a long time.
Only 32-bit apps do not open. But 64-bit apps work perfectly!

Sorry for the bad English, I'm Brazilian ^_^

would you mind to let us know your specs / cpu?

m28ew 05-01-2012 05:50 PM

@aaqib7
felipeunix is running the osx on his AMD Bulldozer FX 8120 which supports the SSSE3 instructions
that's why he can run the 64-bits apps


@felipeunix
AFAIK (CMIIW) the -force64 has not been implemented in the legacy kernel yet
and since you have the FX series AMD, by default you're running the osx in the 64-bits mode (with / without arch=x86_64)


@ryman
I got same issues here
After several minutes, the annoying xpchelper crashes are still occurring, then most of apps refuse to run :'(


@justinster123
Keep up the good work! (Y)
Your efforts are appreciated :)

felipeunix 05-01-2012 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R:A:W:X86 (Post 57345)
would you mind to let us know your specs / cpu?

AMD FX-8120
ASUS M5A97-EVO
2x2GB Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz
SSD Corsair F3 60gb
Geforce GTS 250
M-AUDIO Firewire 1814
Microsoft Wireless Desktop 3000

no problem with any device for now ..
the cache of the CPU is not shown in the system information, but the speed is right now displayed correctly

I can help with something else?