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wastez 07-16-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by no1youknowz (Post 58141)
Thanks, but not really the answer im looking for. I'd rather just go out and buy an intel mobo + cpu than mess around like this.

Havent a few people got Lion to run in 64bit mode?

Itīs only possible if your CPU does support SSSE3. (Bulldozer for example)
I donīt know you CPU so i canīt tell you if your cpu will be able to do but if itīs not a relative new cpu it will not support it.

no1youknowz 07-16-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wastez (Post 58145)
Itīs only possible if your CPU does support SSSE3. (Bulldozer for example)
I donīt know you CPU so i canīt tell you if your cpu will be able to do but if itīs not a relative new cpu it will not support it.

Thanks for replying:

I have this: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor Ũ 6

wastez 07-16-2012 04:00 PM

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Thanks for replying:

I have this: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor Ũ 6
This CPU doesnīt support SSSE3, so there is no chance to run it in 64 bit kernelmode in the moment.

no1youknowz 07-16-2012 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wastez (Post 58147)
This CPU doesnīt support SSSE3, so there is no chance to run it in 64 bit kernelmode in the moment.

Thanks for the clarification. I'll be buying an intel set-up then!

R:A:W:X86 07-18-2012 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheConnactic (Post 58137)
With RAW's, as i have a non-Bulldozer CPU, i got 32-bit with that described permission bug. The result was somewhat worse than what i already got with 10.7.2, because the finder restrictions now affected Path Finder, installers and disk utility too, so i had to change back to 10.7.2.

I think that bug should be fixed with latest build - although some further testing is needed.

My own experience is that my Bulldozer Hackintosh is finally running very stable & I am able to use all my software without any limitations. :)

People with other demands (software I am not using etc) may have a differing expierence - dunno...

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But i'm AMD-stubborn
Me too. :D
Anyway Intel is the better way to go, if you consider using OS X as your main operating system.

For example keep in your mind, that we may never be able to run Mountain Lion on our AMD machines (this ain't that unlikely for some reasons), any system update can cause problems i.e. depencies that cannot be solved until the source code for a new Kernel version is released (often some week after the release of the corresponding system update) etc.

Of course if your mainboard would support a Bulldozer upgrade (bios update etc) & you want to use Lion, this could be a "cheap at purchase" alternative.

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1) The original lion finder will work out of the box, since the system will run at 64-bit? It's very annoying to resource to DP and path finders to get the work done;
Yes. 64-Bit software works.

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2) 64-bit-only kexts and apps will work? The answer to this question may look obvious, but nothing in OsX86 is really the way it seems;
No 64-Bit kexts.
The Kernel is i386 only. Kernel Extensions made for X86_64 Kernel only will not work.

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3) 32-bit apps will continue to work in 64-bit mode?
Yes but not 100% ootb.
Running 32-Bit software requires the SYSENTER opcode, which is not avaible on AMD CPUs in 64-Bit enabled system mode.
Sysenter traps have to be patched in dyld & libsystem_kernel.dylib for 32-Bit Apps to work in compatibility mode.

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4) The core services and apps will stop being impossible to launch after x minutes from reboot? Another problematic point in lion with AMD;
Those problems are -legacy mode only.

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5) The kernel will possibly work in a newer Piledriver CPU, since it's basically an enhanced Buldozer?
Most likely yes - of course: no warranty for anything related to those Kernel. ;)

uchihaxyz 07-19-2012 07:27 AM

what is the function of -legacy ? and how can I drop it ?

The Connactic 07-19-2012 08:07 AM

Somehow I lost my previous account. Asked to reset my password but the new one never comes. Anyway, I'm back. Thank you again, RAW X86: your new updated kernel did the trick. Now i'm running 10.7.4 and the permissions bug is gone for good.

Gils, i'm an AMD stubborn, and i'm not exagerating: think i'll rather buy a piledriver set than change to intel; the price/performance ratio still pends to AMD side and i still have faith that the newer AMD CPUs can make through this tribulated transition to 64-bit kernel and extensions. As a matter of fact, i can tell i totally agree with you as far as OsX86 user experience is concerned: i have a hackintoshed atomN450 netbook, and it causes me far less trouble, runs 64-bit kernels and extensions and performs better than under windows7, even without current native suport for this CPU.

Uchihaxyz: Answering directly to your question, -legacy is the boot flag that forces your system boot 32-bit. I think RAW meant 32-bit mode when he said legacy mode. You can't "drop it" on an AMD system, unless you have a ssse3-enabled CPU (buldozer family). A couple of days ago, before the answer of RAW and his upload of his uptaded kernel, i had updated again to 10.7.4. The permissions bug discussed was there and didn't go away, but i tried a new approach to the core apps crashing issue: installed all i need when was still running 10.7.2/bronzovka's V4, and didn't change the original finder, relying on path finder (paid program, 30day trial) to do the finder thing. Worked surprisingly, I don't know how or why, and i could start and quit core service apps anytime I wanted to. But, as I needed airdrop to work, I called dp2 finder back and the crash issue returned. Besides this, I updated the kernel to the latest RAW's. Maybe the return of the crash bug is related to former, to the latter or to none (or both) of them. Who knows? But worth a try, if you have patience and a good backup for your data.

Asking to RAW X86 again: is it possible to enable iCloud/Facetime with your kernel? Appstore and iTunes store work like a charm with the en0/built-in ethernet Yes/latest chameleon/smbios patch, but iCloud/Facetime refuse to accept me to log in. In fact, i have this problem with my atom netbook too. Do iCloud/Facetime work only with vanilla kernel, perhaps?

no1youknowz 07-20-2012 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wastez (Post 58147)
This CPU doesnīt support SSSE3, so there is no chance to run it in 64 bit kernelmode in the moment.

Is anyone working on SSSE3?

burger888 07-21-2012 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by burger888 (Post 58140)
Umm, sounds good. Can you recommend one? I've got a Gigabyte ATI 6850 (GV-R685OC-1GD)

Here's my current extract from System Information:

ATI Radeon HD 6xxx:

Chipset Model: ATI Radeon HD 6xxx
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 1024 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x6739
Revision ID: 0x0000

Anyone recommend an alternative ATI kext?

R:A:W:X86 07-21-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Connactic (Post 58174)
i'm an AMD stubborn, and i'm not exagerating: think i'll rather buy a piledriver set than change to intel; the price/performance ratio still pends to AMD side and i still have faith that the newer AMD CPUs can make through this tribulated transition to 64-bit kernel and extensions.

Yea. I am also looking forward to these.
The so far leaked information on Vishera sounds very promissing.

Specialy thosen 83*0 with 95W TDP / 16MB cache could earn AMD a good market position one more time, if sold for a reasonable price. :cool:

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Originally Posted by The Connactic (Post 58174)
Asking to RAW X86 again: is it possible to enable iCloud/Facetime with your kernel? Appstore and iTunes store work like a charm with the en0/built-in ethernet Yes/latest chameleon/smbios patch, but iCloud/Facetime refuse to accept me to log in. In fact, i have this problem with my atom netbook too. Do iCloud/Facetime work only with vanilla kernel, perhaps?

Actualy iCloud doesn't work on my Xeon Workstation too.
Might be fixable, but I haven't ever cared any further about these programs, as I am not interested in using them anyway...

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Originally Posted by no1youknowz (Post 58189)
Is anyone working on SSSE3?

Does not look like if there is someone, with the necessary skills, who's currently into this..

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Originally Posted by burger888 (Post 58192)
Anyone recommend an alternative ATI kext?

Higly recommended not to use any extra kext.
The HD6850 should work ootb. :)