First-Time Install-nearly impossible.

[ImEatingSeeds]

So, I'm trying to get the installation running on an Intel machine, instead of the original AMD machine I had in mind for my little OSX86 project.

The first distro I downloaded and tried to install was the latest LEO4ALL distribution. THAT, however, didn't work out well at all. It took me to the screen where it loads up the initial files and drivers, and then it begins waiting for the root device.

...the root device never answers.

SO, I went back to the torrents and located the latest version of iDeneb, and downloaded that. When I pop iDeneb into the computer, it begins loading up the installer, it takes me to that second screen with the smaller sized font where it's loading up drivers/kernel/devices etc, and after a LONG LONG time, takes me to that initial grey apple screen with the little circle that looks like it is revolving, but it hangs there. I let that thing sit for 9 hours, and it got me nowhere.

Now, obviously, I know this is not enough SPECIFIC information, but if you guys tell me what information you'll need, or how I can obtain more detailed information from the computer itself as it is loading things up, I will do it immediately and post it back to the forums ASAP.

It seems as though I can't get this to work on this machine...ever!

_A.R.

[Ali C.]

Motherboard and processor information would be most helpful. Also, if the hard drive you're trying to install onto or the DVD drive your using is SATA.
For now, I'd suggest trying Kalyway. iDeneb and Zephyroth's AMD 10.5.2 never loaded on my machine but Kalyway hasn't failed me. :)
Also, try -x at the boot prompts of both the discs you do have.

[ImEatingSeeds]

It's a laptop, the hard drive is ATA, and the DVD Drive is also ATA.

System: Gateway® 7320GZ Notebook

Processor and core logic
Processor: Pentium 4 518 (2.8 GHz/533/1 MB L2)

Chipset-Northbridge Intel 82852GME
Chipset-Southbridge Intel 82801DBM ICH4-M

System memory
Memory type 333 MHz PC2700 DDR SODIMM
Installed memory 1.512 GB


Video
Video Chipset UMA
LCD display panel

* 15-inch TFT WXGA wide screen
* Maximum Resolution 15-inch: 1024 × 768
* Maximum Color Depth: 32-bit (16.7 million colors)

LCD supported video modes WXGA

Modem features

* Integrated V.92 56K modem
* Uses the RJ-11 jack on the rear of the notebook
* Supports Wake on Ring from S3 power mode

10/100 Mbps Ethernet interface features

* Integrated IEEE 802.3 (10/100 BASE-TX) Ethernet interface
* Uses the RJ-45 jack on the rear of the notebook
* Supports Wake on LAN from S3 power mode

Wireless Ethernet interface features (Factory installed option)

* 802.11g wireless Mini-PCI card type III-B
* FN+F2 keyboard combination turns wireless Ethernet on and off.
* Antenna: Uses factory-installed diversified internal antenna
* Operating channels: 11 selectable channels
* Security: 128 and 64 bit WEP encryption
* Operating Frequency: 2.4 GHz Direct Sequence Spread Spectrum (IEEE 802.11b and IEEE 802.11g)
* Maximum Data Rate

o 54 Mbps (IEEE802.11g)
o 11 Mbps (IEEE802.11b)


Input/Output (I/O) ports

* Four USB version 2.0 (4-pin)
* IEEE 1394 (4-pin) (Factory installed option)
* V.92, 56K Modem (RJ-11)
* 10/100 Ethernet (RJ-45)
* External monitor (VGA)
* Stereo headphone output
* Monophonic microphone input
* TV out (S-video) jack (Factory installed option for systems with ATI Radeon 9600 graphics)
* PC Card socket (one Type II)
* DC input

PCMCIA

* Accepts one Type II device
* Ricoh R5C590 controller

Note: This notebook does not support Zoom Video.

Storage
Hard drive

* 80 GB 4200 RPM
* 2.5-inch diameter
* 9.5 mm height

Memory card reader (Factory installed option) Supports the following card types:

* Memory Stick®
* Memory Stick Pro®
* MultiMediaCard™
* Secure Digital™
* CompactFlash®
* IBM Microdrive™

Optical drive (Factory installed) DVD±RW/CD-RW

[nfoav8or]

specs help to ensure the releases you are trying to install will work on initial boot. another bit thing that might help (both you and us when helping you) is to use the boot flags "-f -x -v"...
as what they do and why to use them are the same I'll just state them right out.

-f is a "force" flag. it tells the kernel to load using the kernel extensions found in the "/System/Library/Extensions/" folder on whatever drive you are trying to boot from (DVD/HD).

-x is a "safe mode" flag much like windows. it causes only the extensions that need to boot the system up to a bare minimum. (helpful for installs since not much is needed to ensure this works)

-v is a "verbose" flag. This gives a readout of what is going on with your system while it boots. It helps users/debuggers see what their system is hanging on or loading (if you can read the text fast enough). If you are getting kernel panics it will also help point out what is causing this.

More help can be found throughout the forum by simply reading issues (even if they are unrelated to your system) as this will give you more insight to how the OS works.

[ImEatingSeeds]

Well, I've BEEN poking around here and there on the forums, I found a guy with a similar problem. He gets the SAME EXACT screen I get, when I try the -x parameter

Looks like this:http://armenr.googlepages.com/3053168793_85a96d3420.jpg




And when I went with -x -v -f, I got an error regarding my FireWire, after which it went back to waiting for the boot device that never answers, without even reaching the apple screen.

[ImEatingSeeds]

"FireWire unable to determine security-mode; defaulting to full -secure"

^That's the killer message. I got that with the KalyWay 10.5.2 Disc.

[Ali C.]

Hmmm. I smell an unsupported southbridge. How old is your computer?

[ImEatingSeeds]

Chipset-Northbridge Intel 82852GME
Chipset-Southbridge Intel 82801DBM ICH4-M

=\

The laptop is about..2-2.5 years old.

[nfoav8or]

I've read about Tiger working on this board but not Leopard. Sorry. I'll keep looking though.

[ImEatingSeeds]

...so what version do you propose I go searching for on the wonderful torrents =)?

[nfoav8or]

the latest I've read this working on is 10.4.5 (but that may need to be updated anyways).

I'll keep looking but I suggest you read up on it too. do a search over at hackintosh.org and insanelymac.com as these are the only places I've seen this chipset referred to. Sorry mate.

[ImEatingSeeds]

Thanks for the help!!

appreciate the insightful and extremely quick responses!

[ImEatingSeeds]

I'm having trouble locating that version anywhere on the net. Any suggestions as to where I can look for older distributions/project files?

[nfoav8or]

This forum neither condones nor promotes these sites so we can't specify here. Personally I wouldn't know right off the top of my head. I'm at work right now so I can't check it. PM me and I'll get back to you when I get home.

[ImEatingSeeds]

the latest I've read this working on is 10.4.5 (but that may need to be updated anyways).

I'll keep looking but I suggest you read up on it too. do a search over at hackintosh.org and insanelymac.com as these are the only places I've seen this chipset referred to. Sorry mate.

SO, I was able to get my hands on 10.4.5 (Universal Install AMD/INTEL)

When I boot, using the command: "rd=disk0s1 -f -x -v"

I get the following:
Using 3850 buffer headers and 3850 cluster IO buffer headers
Enabling XMM register save/restore and SSE/SSE2 opcodes
Started CPU 01
IOAPIC: Version 0x20 Vectors 0:23
ACPI:System State [S0 S3 S4 S5]
Security auditing service present
BSM Auditing Present
disabled
Waiting on <dict ID="0"><key>IOProviderClass</key><string ID="1">IOService</string><key>BSD Name</key><string ID="2">disk0s1</string></dict>
Extension "com.apple.driver.AppleACPIThermal" has no kernel dependency
VGA family: specific matching fails
display: family specific matching fails
IOPCCardBridge:: start failed
IOPCCard notice: AdjustResourceInfo: Unknown error code 0xffffffff
IOPCCardBridge:: start failed
ApplePS2Trackpad: Synaptics Touchpad v5.9
FireWire (OHCI) TI ID 8023 PCI now active, GUID 000325213700ce7d; max speed s400
AppleIntelPIIXPATA: ICH4 ATA/100 (CMD 0x1f0, CTR 0x3f4, IRQ 14, BM 0xffa0)
AppleIntelPIIXPATA: ICH4 ATA/100 (CMD 0x170, CTR 0x374, IRQ 15, BM 0xffa8)
Got boot device = IOService:/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/IDE0@1F,1/AppleIntelPIIXATARoot/CHN0@0/AppleIntelPIIXPATA/ATADeviceNub@0/IOATABlockStorageDriver/IOATABlockStoreageDevice/IOBlockStorageDriver/Toshiba MK8032GAX Media/IOFDi
BSD root: disk0s1, major 14, minor 1
nfs_boot: networking is not initialized
panic(cpu 0 caller 0x002B66B9): nfs_boot_init failed with 6

Debugger called: <panic>
Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x1bbb3a84 : 0x128aea (0x3b9dcc 0x1bbb3aa8 0x130c94 0x0)
0x1bbb3ac4 : 0x2b66b9 (0x3d1860 0x6 0x1bbb3b04 0x327755eb)
0x1bbb3ea4 : 0x1c5ee0 (0x2de4d00 0x3055f78 0x1bbb3ec4 0x33eb30)
0x1bbb3ee4 : 0x30f2e3 (0x2d960e0 0x1 0x1bbb3f98 0x20)
0x1bbb3fb4 : 0x135f0e (0x0 0x7 0x0 0x0)
0x1bbb3fd4 : 0x196b69 (0x0 0xffffffff 0x4431f8 0x4431f8 0x49b800) Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0x0

Kernel Version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.4.1: Tue Jan 3 18:23:53 PST 2006; root :xnu-792.7.90.obj~1/RELEASE_I386

^I got that message twice, identically.
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