Freeze after start

[mudemi]

hi guys,

i am searching since 2 weeks for a solution, but i am getting really desperate.

at first here my system:
laptop asus z92km (barebone a6km)
amd turion ml 34 1,8ghz
1gb ram 400mhz
geforce 7300 go

that should be the most important things.

now my problem. my system freezes after few seconds after booted up. i have found out that there is a problem with gfx card. when i start without any driver and injecter, there is also no freeze, but of course just vesa mode (1024x768, no qe, no ci).

the weired thing, under tiger my geforce go 7300 worked fine, with qe and ci and resolution change (native resolution is 1280x800).

now i have tried out different leopard install versions and nearly every injecter i could find via google (nvkush,nvinjectgo,natit,titan,nvdarwin) i also added manual my dev id 0x01d7 to the proper, but everytime i get the same proplem. after few seconds using leopard with qe and ci my system crashes. keyboard and mouse dont react anymore.

anyone any ideas, i could try?

i myself dont know anymore what i could do.

could there be a problem with bus speed, or acpi or sth like that. i noticed that tiger shows in system profiler my bus speed correct with 400mhz, but leopard shows just 200mhz. anyone knows how to fix this so i could see if this is the problem.

lots of thx for any help, any ideas.
greetz

[lanceomni]

Hey given it a try over here I see. :) InsanelyMac has been getting slower by the day.

Just so everyone can see the steps that led up to this. Here is a link to your previous post over on InsanelyMac.

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=139623&pid=988891&mode=threaded&start=0#entry988891

Your problem is beyond my limited knowledge. :-B

[mudemi]

yeah,

well, i really want this thing. so i wonīt give up.

the thing is, that i have read from a lot of other users, that geforce go 7300 works with leopard, so there must be sth wrong with my installation.

i also read, that a fresh install doesnīt work properly, but update from tiger will work, so i will try this now. but at the moment, i donīt know, how i could update tiger 10.4.9(uphuck) to leopard 10.5.2(kalyway) or leopard 10.5.4(leo4allv4.1).


get it hard or die trying :P
greetz

[lanceomni]

You don't get any errors when you installed 10.5.2 did you?

[mudemi]

hey, i dont get any errors with any leopard version, as long as i am in vesa mode.

tiger works correct with qe/ci.
this last error, which i described at insanelymac, now happens with kalyway 10.5.2

i am quite sure, that this problem is the prob for every distro

it says "local apic error"

[mudemi]

omg

well, i donīt want to scream it too early and too loud,
but it seems to be fixed. my system is working!!! i have got an working leopard on my asus laptop .. wuhaaa, plz plz plz - go asus go :P

well, it was a local apic error, like i wrote the post before.

the fix is, i have to boot up with platform=x86pc

til now, it works absolutely correct, with QE AND CI :) and NO FREEZE!!!

could anyone tell me the difference between PLATFORM=ACPI or PLATFORM=x86PC ???

cheers - omg
yeaaaah, yeaaaahhhh

PS: Lol, i just have read, that APIC is not ACPI ... so, it was just a LUCK SHOT???
hmmmm .. anyone here to tell me, why it did work with this flag??

[nfoav8or]

ACPI is for power management in boards that have that setting available... otherwise the x86PC boot flag disables this check.

You can write this to your com.apple.Boot.plist file by opening up Terminal and typing:
sudo nano /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.Boot.plist
then simple use your keyboard arrows to get to the kernel flag section and modify it...
to save: [ctrl]+[o] then hit enter to save over the old one
to exit: [ctrl]+[x]

now reboot and you shouldn't need to do enter it in.

[Anarchyw]

lanceomni - seems like i have similar hardware as you, which OS x 86 are you using ?

[mudemi]

hi, well :(

unfortunately the system crashes are anyway too much.

now i can work for some times, but after about 30minutes or more i got the same error again. local version error.

i guess there is sth with that kernel panic during boot up.

LOCAL APIC VERSION 0x14 NOT AS EXPECTED.

I have read, that 0x14 is LAPIC for Intel Pentium and Intel Xeon CPUs. Of course I have got an AMD ML-34 Turion, but nothing in my BIOS to disable APIC.

Does anyone know, how to use the apic kernel flags?

nolapic, disableapic

do i have to write them just down? or this way -disableapic or this way disablepanic=1 ...

thx for any help, cheers

[mudemi]

unfortunately i guess i am off now.

i will have to give up, cause i cannot find any solution for my problem and it seems that i am on my own with that problem.

i can work with my hackintosh fine, but only for some time. with 9.2 sleep kernel, my system crashed after seconds. with the new voodoo kernel 9.5, everything seems to be fine, but sometimes after minutes and sometimes after hours of working, i always get the same kernel panic described in this topic.

i have tried so much distroīs like iatkos, ideneb, and so on. everytime same thing. the best one had been kalyway 10.5.2. i updated it to 10.5.5 but anyway nothing changed. same probs with older kernel, same problem with every update.

of course thereīs no way, to work with such an instable os - really sad right now, but i think i have to go back to windows xp :((

i will read on here and hope that anyone will find a solution, but i guess there is no one for this. i have four choises:

1) use tiger with ci/qe
2) use leopard with vesa mode and no ci/qe
3) use leopard with qe / ci and system crash many times a day
4) use winxp :( but without any crashes

i donīt want to, but i have to :(

hope to find anything, that is going to help me :(

cheers

[nfoav8or]

hi, well :(

unfortunately the system crashes are anyway too much.

now i can work for some times, but after about 30minutes or more i got the same error again. local version error.

i guess there is sth with that kernel panic during boot up.

LOCAL APIC VERSION 0x14 NOT AS EXPECTED.

I have read, that 0x14 is LAPIC for Intel Pentium and Intel Xeon CPUs. Of course I have got an AMD ML-34 Turion, but nothing in my BIOS to disable APIC.

Does anyone know, how to use the apic kernel flags?

nolapic, disableapic

do i have to write them just down? or this way -disableapic or this way disablepanic=1 ...

thx for any help, cheers

sorry for the delayed response... I got the following (in part) from a post on boot flags. These are meant for UNIX but you might be able to find some that help. The flag is presented first with the explanation underneath.
APIC Flags

apicUse IO-APIC. Default

noapicDon't use the IO-APIC.

disableapicDon't use the local APIC

nolapicDon't use the local APIC (alias for i386 compatibility)

noapictimerDon't set up the APIC timer

no_timer_checkDon't check the IO-APIC timer. This can work around problems with incorrect timer initialization on some boards.

apicmaintimerRun time keeping from the local APIC timer instead of using the PIT/HPET interrupt for this. This is useful when the PIT/HPET interrupts are unreliable.

noapicmaintimerDon't do time keeping using the APIC timer. Useful when this option was auto selected, but doesn't work.

apicpmtimer=1Either set to 0 or 1. Same as apicmaintimer=1/0. Do APIC timer calibration using the pmtimer. Implies apicmaintimer. Useful when your PIT timer is totally broken. Sometimes there are timer routing problems on some Nvidia and ATI chipsets. Assuming you're using 64bit then you can try apicmaintimer or apicpmtimer. On 32bit you can try "pci=noapic"... Needs testing

disable_8254_timer or enable_8254_timerDisable/Enable interrupt 0 timer routing over the 8254 in addition to over
the IO-APIC. The kernel tries to set a sensible default.

[mudemi]

thx for your help...

i found these flags too. but unfortunately none of them solved the problem.
the kernel panic is still there and it made me crying :(

would have really been happy, but i think i have to give up :(

thx 4 help,
cheers

[boombari]

i have a panic when i connect USB devices before boot ...after boot all is ok.

do u have resolved ?