Stumped During Retail Leopard OS X on PC

[uhtardedsqwirl]

ok so I have been trying to install retail leopard os x 10.5.6 to my PC running Vista Home Premium. I have partitioned my HDD successfully with GParted and have it formatted with NTFS. I have a retail os x DVD and a BOOT 132 loader (the generic one). every time I attempt installation I get to the grey screen with the apple logo and a continuously spinning wheel just below it. when i boot using the F8 and -v command I can see that it gets stuck with the error SAM Multimedia Read_Write Failed Sense_Key or something similar to that.

My Specs:
HP dv6700 Notebook PC
Intel Core 2 Duo T5600
Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 OS
4GB DDR2 RAM
Mobile Intel GMA 965 Express Family Chipset
Intel 82801HBM (ICH8-ME) Southbridge
ATA and SATA Device Drivers
ACPI x86 based PC

please keep in mind that i'm not completely sure what some of that means. i am adequate with computers but don't consider myself IT technician worthy so please be patient if you think i am a noob. PLEASE HELP ME!!!

[Ali C.]

N00bs ask "why doesn't this work?" and don't post their specs, lol. Therefore IMO, not n00b.
That being said, have you tried anything besides -v? For instance, -x -v -f?

[uhtardedsqwirl]

lol...thanks for that...the only options it displays are -v for advanced setup options and ? to learn what those setup options are. after i hit 9f and enter i am the told to either hit enter to boot the DVD of F8 to boot up with advanced setup options. it then gives me another option to choose either -v or ?. to my knowledge everytime i use the ? command nothing happens so i usually end up just using the -v command unless i want to stare at that evil grey apple screen until i get bored with it. i have been looking around and people that have tried this using pirated retails are told that it could be a bad burn or rip. could it be that i don't have the right kext files in the BOOT 132?

[Taisto]

Umm, yeah it`s often caused by bad dvd burn, which probably is not the case here if you have it from store. Well, it may be very stupid suggestion but - have you tried swapping jumpers in your dvd/hdd ? Try to switch them, for instance set dvd as master etc. - it may sound useless but in some cases ( for some people ) it worked. Anyway, trying retail as a first attempt doesnt seem like a very good idea - modified releases are more likely to work, but mabye it`s worth a try with jumpers. Have no other ideas, sorry.

[uhtardedsqwirl]

so now this is the part where i ask how to do that

[nfoav8or]

Notebooks are sometimes the hardest to diagnose with these problems because you can't just open them up and check out your chipsets, etc (unless you have the know-how or aren't worried about breaking your notebook's warranty).

I would agree (for now) that you should use a distro that is "obtained" from online and better tailored to fit your needs. If you've looked through the forum at all you will see different versions of these distros being named so that will offer a better place to start from. If you are able to install from one of these other distros, we can call that a "test" and then move on to getting a retail-install working on your notebook. The 965 chipset is a graphics chipset and should be supported by the other distros. We need to figure out what kind of northbridge/southbridge chipset you are working from and then know how to better diagnose.

@Taisto - did you see he's working on a notebook bud? ;) Normally in a Notebook you aren't going to have the DVD drive and HD sharing a ribbon cable so I don't think jumpers are the issue here. (although you may have a point with a bad burn... he is using a Boot-132 loader)

[uhtardedsqwirl]

i thought that sounded weird cause i know about jumpers and desktops but never notebooks...i would only crack it open as a last resort since i have done it before...i also added my southbridge to the specs above...i can't believe i left that one out but you can't always remember everything.

i have been trying to find a BOOT 132 specific for my computer but haven't managed to find one. i have a copy of the slimbuild version where you add the kexts specific to your machine but my problem is i'm not adept enough to know where to find them. i have heard of the other things like iDeneb, iATAKOS, Leo4All, and Kalaway if that is indeed what you are talking about. if so then please suggest which you think would be best.

as we speak i am "obtaining" Leo4All V3 because i have been at this for 2 weeks worth of long nights and am not stopping till this machine runs OS X. Retail would be preferable but in the meantime i will stick with what i can get until then.

also, if you have any help regarding making my own personalized BOOT132 that would be great.

also, if it is a bad burn then maybe i could try booting the 132 from a flash drive?

[Taisto]

Umm...actually i didnt notice it`s notebook. Damn HP, why they have to name notebook series the same as desktop ones :P. Sorry, that was very "noobish" of me... <ashamed> :)

[uhtardedsqwirl]

so now about that help that i require...please? =(

[Ali C.]

Give Leo4All a try and if it loads correctly we can go from there.

[Shakeymoe]

The reason you can't install is that you formatted the partition in NTFS. The retail DVD can only be installed on Fat32 formattted partitions.

[uhtardedsqwirl]

ok so i gave leo4all v3 a go and met with partial success. the disk booted and i was able to re-format the partition with MAC OS X (Journaled) and then made it to the part where my disk is checked for errors before it begins to install (the DVD i am installing from and not the hard disk). it makes it to 52% and then gives me a dirty disk error and asks me to restart. i have burned the disk twice, once with poweriso and once with astroburn and both meet the same problem. i think that it may be a problem with the file i "obtained". the file is 4.37GB burned to a Sony DVD+R 4.7GB at 3x speed both times but on different DVDs.

how would it matter if i formatted with NTFS or FAT32 when i have to re-format to MAC OS X (Journaled) in order for the setup to run on the partition?

[nunrg2009]

i thought that sounded weird cause i know about jumpers and desktops but never notebooks...i would only crack it open as a last resort since i have done it before...i also added my southbridge to the specs above...i can't believe i left that one out but you can't always remember everything.

i have been trying to find a BOOT 132 specific for my computer but haven't managed to find one. i have a copy of the slimbuild version where you add the kexts specific to your machine but my problem is i'm not adept enough to know where to find them. i have heard of the other things like iDeneb, iATAKOS, Leo4All, and Kalaway if that is indeed what you are talking about. if so then please suggest which you think would be best.

as we speak i am "obtaining" Leo4All V3 because i have been at this for 2 weeks worth of long nights and am not stopping till this machine runs OS X. Retail would be preferable but in the meantime i will stick with what i can get until then.

also, if you have any help regarding making my own personalized BOOT132 that would be great.

also, if it is a bad burn then maybe i could try booting the 132 from a flash drive?
I used leo4all v3 for a while and I loved it. The options are simple, the only problem is that things like your sound and network drivers may not be on the disk. Also you are kinda stuck with 10.5.2 (I think there is a 10.5.3 upgrade) which started to have its limitations because some apps I wanted to run were 10.5.5 and up. I switched to iPC 10.5.6 recently, It has way more drivers and fixes to choose from but it took more trial and error to make it work right

[uhtardedsqwirl]

i will try iPC but i would really like to get retail running on my PC. not only the fact that you can legitimately update from apple but it would be a whole new level of accomplishment for myself. thank you for your advice.

[uhtardedsqwirl]

tried installing iPC burned to a Sony DVD+R 4.7 GB and still landed at 52% with a dirty disk error. i don't think it's the files i am getting anymore. but i have tried burning with two different programs and they both stop at 52%. PLEASE HELP ME!!!!

[Dies]

how would it matter if i formatted with NTFS or FAT32 when i have to re-format to MAC OS X (Journaled) in order for the setup to run on the partition?

It wouldn't. ;)

PLEASE HELP ME!!!!

As far as your problem goes.

Seems like something is up with your optical drive, maybe Leopard just doesn't like it or the chipset controlling it.

Now is it just getting stuck when you try verifying the disk or does it error out if you skip the disk check and try to install anyways?

Also, do you have another machine available that you could try these disks on?

If they verify on another machine, then maybe a USB DVD drive would work...

Yet another option, although it's a little more involved, you could always put the iso on a partition or usb drive ( if it allows booting from usb, of course ) and boot it from there instead of the optical drive.

[uhtardedsqwirl]

if i skip the disk check it loads some and then hangs and eventiually gives me the dirty dick error anyway.

well i do have my girlfriend's computer but i'm not sure how thrilled she would be if i asked her if i could install stuff on it. i might be able to try though, thanks for the tip.

also, i have heard of people using the method where they put the OS X installation on an iPod or similar device with about 8GB of room and installing from there. as of right now i have no idea if my machine supports that but i will try it out as soon as i can.

i tihnk iPC is small enough to fit on my 4GB flash drive. is there any specific way i should go about putting the image on there?

[uhtardedsqwirl]

just spent an entire day trying to get a cracked version of Nero 9 working so i could try using that to burn the image and it still hangs at 52% during the pre-installation disk check and gives me a dirty disk error. i guess my drive wasn't made for doing these kinds of things.

next step it to try and format my 4GB memory stick and try to mount the image to it.

[uhtardedsqwirl]

and my memory stick is too small for the operation that i need it for so not i will be accepting any and all alternative methods to the installation. HELP!

[nunrg2009]

and my memory stick is too small for the operation that i need it for so not i will be accepting any and all alternative methods to the installation. HELP!
dude, I had all kinds of trouble getting a disk to work. ipc ppf5 disc gave me similar problems but the ppf4 disc worked fine. try that one if you haven't already and make sure you burn on 4x

[uhtardedsqwirl]

i have been burning on the lowest possible speed that i can whether it be 3x or 4x but either one i use i get the same error. i don't know about trying another burn because i have way too many DVD+R and DVD-DL coasters sitting around my room right now.

i really want to try booting from a USB drive. i am able to get my computer to boot from my 4GB memory stick. this gives me the hope that, if i can find a cheap 16GB stick, i can mount and install the image without burning. that woudl completely eliminate the broblem of having a drive that can't write for shit. i realize that 8GB would do in most cases but i would like to err on the side of caution since i want to do a retail install and that iso is about 8GB.

if anyone has any helpful advice on doing this, please, PLEASE, please help me out.

i would also like to say that i still need some help in finding the kexts and that other various whatnot to make my own personalized BOOT-132 disk using the slimbuild method. from what i understand this would be best because it would be using the kexts and kernels for my computer specifically. this would help eliminate the BOOT-132 disk for being at fault for a faulty installation.

[nunrg2009]

i have been burning on the lowest possible speed that i can whether it be 3x or 4x but either one i use i get the same error. i don't know about trying another burn because i have way too many DVD+R and DVD-DL coasters sitting around my room right now.

i really want to try booting from a USB drive. i am able to get my computer to boot from my 4GB memory stick. this gives me the hope that, if i can find a cheap 16GB stick, i can mount and install the image without burning. that woudl completely eliminate the broblem of having a drive that can't write for shit. i realize that 8GB would do in most cases but i would like to err on the side of caution since i want to do a retail install and that iso is about 8GB.

if anyone has any helpful advice on doing this, please, PLEASE, please help me out.

i would also like to say that i still need some help in finding the kexts and that other various whatnot to make my own personalized BOOT-132 disk using the slimbuild method. from what i understand this would be best because it would be using the kexts and kernels for my computer specifically. this would help eliminate the BOOT-132 disk for being at fault for a faulty installation.
I would use a dvd-r. I've put osx on an external hard drive and installed from it. The only way I know how to do it though is with osx disk utility and I used a retail leopard and installed it on a real mac. Just restore your disk image to the drive and it has to be a GUID partition table and I used like a 12 gig partition

[uhtardedsqwirl]

any way to mount the image to a partition of the internal HDD in my computer and install it from there?

[nunrg2009]

I'm sure there is a way to do it by using a linux boot disk but it was slightly overwhelming so I read about it and never tried it