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I opened this thread for Beta Testers only. (If anyone other than them put a message here it will be deleted). I want you to: - Tell what works. (if something doesn't work right after the installation but if you managed to get it to work,…

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I opened this thread for Beta Testers only. (If anyone other than them put a message here it will be deleted).
I want you to:

- Tell what works. (if something doesn't work right after the installation but if you managed to get it to work, explain how).
- Tell what doesn't work.
- Give your specs.

No comment here, just feedback.

Author Updates & Technical Revisions

Follow-up dispatches by @zephyroth

Author Update #1 @zephyroth 2008-01-22

lol ... Yeah ... Once Rev.2 is finished !
But in 3 weeks I will buy a Core2Duo e8500 and sell my Athlon 64 X2 4200+ so ... I must work on it every day !

Author Update #2 @zephyroth 2008-01-22

Arf yes, I think the difference between e8500 and X2 4200 is ... BIG !

But hey don't worry I still have an Athlon 3500+ SSE2/SSE3.

Author Update #3 @zephyroth 2008-01-22

Penryn E8500 seems to be promising ... 3,16 @ 4,7Ghz in air cooling ... And it will not be too expensive.
I know that for Intel users who already own a C2D it's not a real evolution but when you change from Athlon X2 to this C2D its another story.

And I will be able to get Leopard running with stock kernel and stock kexts on my PC ... That's really cool.
BTW: I'm working on a way to make Apple updates more easy for AMD.

About the upload of Rev.2 :

I've removed all rar from ftp as it wasn't the right ISO.
I will upload the new image this night and it should be finished tomorrow morning.

Author Update #4 @zephyroth 2008-01-23

yeah at least ... @ 3,16Ghz.
I cannot imagine if I can put it @ 4,7 or more ...

Author Update #5 @zephyroth 2008-01-23

Hummm ... a dream machine comes with nightmare prices ...

Author Update #6 @zephyroth 2008-01-23

Still closed but this is the last time.

There is still number of things to fix but I don't want to make you wait longer.

This is the last iso I make, next updates will be shipped as Installer or ppf.

At least I'm starting to upload it on ftp (damn ISP ...).

Author Update #7 @zephyroth 2008-01-23

Support for audio devices : AppleAC97Audio, AzaliaAudio, ALC883 and ALC888.

Support for wifi devices : Broadcom BCM43xx, Ralink RT73 and RT2500 and Zydas-ZD1211-1215

Author Update #8 @zephyroth 2008-01-23

It's seems that this wireless adapter is not supported yet ...

Author Update #9 @zephyroth 2008-01-23

I don't know ... This issue never happens for me.

Author Update #10 @zephyroth 2008-01-23

I already have some things to add to Rev.2 ...
My brain is about to explode !

I hope that the ISO is really EFI ... I didn't burned it yet !

Author Update #11 @zephyroth 2008-01-23

steffx,

EFI is not an alternative to MBR or GUID.

EFI is the "BIOS" of Mac.

On Hackintosh it's just a software which is installed on the boot sector and allow you to use stock kernel + stock kexts on Intel (almost the original Leo) and on AMD only original kexts (but a better stability).

It's hard for me to explain that precisely because as you know my English is not as good AS I would wish it (ouch don't know if it's English ...)

BTW, i'm uploading it from Mac OS that means i've managed to fix that damn upload freeze.
Don't know why but unload and reload forcedeth.kext at boot fix it.

Author Update #12 @zephyroth 2008-01-24

if it works, please upload the kext on rapidshare. I'll add it to Rev.2.

Author Update #13 @zephyroth 2008-01-25

Ok I will add it ! But AppleSMBios is already the one from EFI .

Author Update #14 @zephyroth 2008-01-25

For those who already test Rev.2, did you burn it ? Or restore on a spare partition ?

Author Update #15 @zephyroth 2008-01-25

Yeah but your specs (except your graphic cards) are the same of another beta tester.

So I suggest you to download the kext for your card on the wiki and to tell me if it works or not !

Author Update #16 @zephyroth 2008-01-25

EFI on AMD allow us to use original kexts (ACPIPlatformExpert ... etc) for a better stability.
It allow me to use my GeForce 8800 GTS 640Mo without NVinject.
Its main purpose is to put our HackInTosh a step closer to real Macs.
On Intel, it allows us to use vanilla kernel and original kexts (Apple Updates are possible without breaking your system).

Author Update #17 @zephyroth 2008-01-25

I will send a pm to Bonkey so that you will be able to download it.

BUT, I need detailled feedback if you don't test it correctly you will be banned from this forum ... Ok ?

Author Update #18 @zephyroth 2008-01-25

Ok but without "e" in the end of "meilleur" , I'm not a girl ...

Author Update #19 @zephyroth 2008-01-25

don't really know ... I've not make any search about that yet.

Author Update #20 @zephyroth 2008-01-25

Hmmm there's already ApplePS2Keyboard.kext in Rev2 DVD.

If it's not compatible with your laptop keyboard I don't know how I can include both ...

Unless the kext for laptop keyboard is compatible with "normal" PS2 keyboard.

Rockybt18 will be able to answer as soon as Bonkey give him the access to the ftp.

Author Update #21 @zephyroth 2008-01-25

Ok Roisoft ... I didn't test partition with GUID yet, so I don't know what's wrong in my script. You should take a look at it and see if you can fix.
It's located in Packages/Bootloader/FixGUID.pkg on the DVD.

Author Update #22 @zephyroth 2008-01-25

Unmounting is needed to use startupfiletool.

For changing it no need to use Pacifist or to recreate a pkg. Just edit like this :

In terminal:

nano /path-to-the-Image/System/Installation/Packages/Bootloader/FixGUID.pkg/Contents/Resources/postinstall

Do your modification and save.

Author Update #23 @zephyroth 2008-01-26

Did you try XBench or another bench to see if it's really slower ?

Author Update #24 @zephyroth 2008-01-26

yeah ... As I've not tested GUID yet I can't know if it works or not and ... seeing your posts makes me think it doesn't work at all ! But hey it's beta.

Author Update #25 @zephyroth 2008-01-26

YES that's the main reason why Rev.2 has not been released yet.

Author Update #26 @zephyroth 2008-01-26

Ok I will modify the Network section.
I can put the VIA Rhine kext.
Azalia is High Definition Audio.

I prefer to let the choice between MBR and GUID and to put them in Bootloader folder (because I will add more bootloaders installation).

I'm not using Paragon NTFS but MacFuse and NTFS-3G , it's working great on my sytem.

Author Update #27 @zephyroth 2008-01-27

Vinbuntu --->

Imagine if I release it on Rapidshare. Imagine the number of people who will ask me the password ...
And how can we organize us in order to have clean reports if thousands of persons test it ?

I think it's not a good idea and by seeing how much persons ask to beta test I believe the majority just hope to see it working on their system.

So a few number of beta testers with different systems (representative of the majority of AMD systems) is a good way to improve Rev.2.

Author Update #28 @zephyroth 2008-01-27

naquaada ----->

Yes that's a good idea but I can make a distribution package to update the spare partition (on which you have restored Beta 2) too. This will be more easy to do.
This way after update if all goes well all you'll have to do is to recreate a bootable ISO.

Author Update #29 @zephyroth 2008-01-31

You know what ?
I'm happy to see you working on it like that ! I'm not alone and ... God ... It's good !

Author Update #30 @zephyroth 2008-02-12

I'm on it ... I've just installed 10.5.2 Rev.1 and I had some trouble to get my PS2 and USB keyboard to be recognized.
As you see it's fixed.

Some more job to do but nothing really annoying at the moment.

Synthesized Community Field Notes

220 technical responses curated from 306 original dispatches

Field Note #1 @DoiX 2008-01-14

hy zeph.. i'm sorry to report that rev 2 is not working for me

Problems:
1. (install)at 5-8 minutes left the screen goes gray it doesn't restart or anything just stays there.. if i restart it manually it boots into osx and says still waiting for root device..
2.after the root device error i use the "a minute left" solution, after it finishes to install(again)it restarts normally, now when i try to enter osx it gives me this error "disk0s1: I/0 error. 0 [level3] [readUID 0] etc"(pic that i sent you 2-3 days ago).
3 i did the same thing again(a minute left solution) now i don't get any error but i get stuck at creating account
thats all
my Specs:
Processor: AMD Athlon™ 64 3200+(Venice) / MMX, 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, x86-64
Motherboard: MSi Amethyst-M
Graphics: Ati Radeon Xpress 200
Hard Drive: Samsung (160 GB), Seagate (40 GB)
Sound card: Realtek AC97 Audio
Memory: 1280 MB DDR Kingston

Field Note #2 @blood_brother 2008-01-16

My report about Rev.2 Installation:

I'm testing Rev.2 in my notebook:
CPU: AMD Mobile Sempron 3400+ (SSE3, 64bit)
VGA: Nvidia GeForce Go 6150
Chipset: Nforce MCP51
HD: Fujitsu SATA 40GB
LAN: Nvidia
Wireless: Broadcom

Installation goes fine with some combination.

Well, I made something, downloaded netkas pc efi v8 (I have to use some special for amd?) put on grub as kernel, so I get boot on Leo, but, I get message from Nforce Sata driver, something like:
AppleNforceAta: scan 1 disks found
(... other system messages ...)
Until here is ok, but for some reason Leo tries to load again and I receive this:

AppleNforceAta: scan 0 disks found
AppleNforceAta: sata phy reset failed

And...
Still waits for root device.

Maybe it could be because on installation I choose to install the newest kernel?
Edit: I try without the newer kernel: sametthing happens

Resume: installs fine but don't boot

Field Note #3 @jsmach 2008-01-17

I downloaded Rev.2 and installed it in my Opteron 175 OC'd to 2.5ghz, 2gh ddr ram, two pci-e 6600gt video cards. The installation goes through without a hitch. However, after completing the installation, it will not boot unless Rev.2 DVD is in drive, but booting will eventually stop even with the DVD in place. I tried installing on a partition and a separate HDD, with all three partitioning methods: GUID, MBR, and the 3rd option...none booted without the DVD in drive.

I will be happy to beta-test it on my system if you are wanting the same thing.

Thank so much, Zephyroth!

My hardware:
Opteron 175
DFI LanParty Ultra D system board
internal sound disabled; SoundBlaster Live! value pci card used instead
WinFast TV2000 XP TV Tuner Card
Builtin Marvell Yukon Chipset based Ethernet Controller

Field Note #4 @perhaps 2008-01-20
[cite] jsmach:I downloaded Rev.2 and installed it in my Opteron 175 OC'd to 2.5ghz, 2gh ddr ram, two pci-e 6600gt video cards. The installation goes through without a hitch. However, after completing the installation, it will not boot unless Rev.2 DVD is in drive, but booting will eventually stop even with the DVD in place. I tried…

I installed Kalyway on a friend's machine. I was manage to install it without booting with the DVD, using the HD manager and using it's software to correct some incorrect paths or pendencies. I forgot the name... I'll see later and report in here!

Field Note #5 @naquaada 2008-01-20

@ perhaps & jsmach:

Try this: boot install DVD in safe mode (option -s) and enter following commands

fdisk -e /dev/rdisk0
update
f 1
w (confirm with y)
q

Then reboot, it should work now. Use rdisk0 if you only have one hd in the system, I had more so I needed to use rdisk1. I'm using a seperate harddisk for OS X.

Field Note #6 @7th 2008-01-21
[cite] emaildopedrooo:Hi zephyroth, My motherboard is ASUS M2N-E, with NVIDIA nForce® 570 Ultra chipset. I've tried to install the Tiger releases (TubGirl and iATKOS), but I don't have success. I cannot format my partitions, they just appears at Disk Manager, but they're inactive (a gray color). So I just wanna know if you have beta…

Same thing here and I have the same chipset as you (same motherboard). I'm not sure but if you try with an ATA HD (not SATA) I think it will work. I tried asking about this here with no help. Maybe two asking about the same thing someone will help us.

I would be happy to know if someone among the betatesters use this same motherboard that we have with SATA HD. If not, please, ask Pedrooo, me, someone else with more knowledge to be a betatester.

BTW, I don't you open another treat with the betatester configs? This way, people that still have problems with its configs would feel more comfortable seeing that his problem is being working out or fixed or whatever. Just an idea that would keep people from asking this kind of questions.

Thanks agains!

Field Note #7 @DoiX 2008-01-22

zeph i have a question why is the dmg image 8 gb?:)).. oh and why is it a dmg image and not iso

Field Note #8 @DoiX 2008-01-22

zeph.. heres an advice.. take a small vacation or break or whatever, you seem like your close to a nervous breakdown

Field Note #9 @DoiX 2008-01-22

oh im an AMD person intels kinda sucks i tested with a benchmark my computer (64 2.2 ghz) vs a 3.2 ghz intel celeron, my pc won i dont know how the dual cores are..anyway when you will finish uploading beta2?

Field Note #10 @Puttabong 2008-01-23

I read that the E8500 (Wolfdale) has 6 Megabytes (2x 3072 KB) of L2 Cache,
that's certainly insanely fast in addition to the 2x 3166 MHz Cores!

Which Mainboard are you going to use for that purpose?
An Intel Bad Axe 2?

Field Note #11 @roisoft 2008-01-23

I have ordered an E8500 too, GigaByte P35-DS4 with 4 gb Kingstom HyperX. Seasonic M12-700 x (power sup.) and SilverStone TJ07W (case)

Field Note #12 @Puttabong 2008-01-23

roisoft, which xBench score do you expect on your new setup?

Field Note #13 @Puttabong 2008-01-23

Amazing.

Imagine a 30" Cinema Display attached to one of these super fast machines !

Field Note #14 @roisoft 2008-01-23

I have a 24´ Samsung Syncmaster and a TV-TFT 40´ samsung 1080p for Movies and sports, not too bad..hey puttabong?

Field Note #15 @roisoft 2008-01-23

I was thinking about buying macmini like mediacenter, but I´ll wait a 3 months more.

Field Note #16 @7eventh 2008-01-23

Hey, whats happening here? Don t tell me you all drop the AMDs and go for the "standard" Intel Hackintosh! ;o)

Field Note #17 @dred 2008-01-23

zephyroth, I just baught X2 6400+ 3.2GHZ and I like it but I too was thinking of buying a CoreDuo just to make things easier. Still undecided.

Thanks again for all your work.

Field Note #18 @xan 2008-01-23

please dont drop AMD, your release was the only one that works for me. amd user 4 life and your rev1 was really good. make the rev2 :] or just drop us the current status

Field Note #19 @braindead803 2008-01-23

so is this gonna be uploaded for open beta testing or still closed? i'd love to beta test on my gateway. specs below:

computer:Gateway MT3422
processor: AMD Turion 64 Mobile TK5
Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor
MMX(+), 3DNow!(+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, x86-64
Nvidia GeForce Go 6100
nForce 410/430 MCP
1 gig of ram

Field Note #20 @braindead803 2008-01-23

will this installer recognize wireless internet adapters and soundcards? or ?

Field Note #21 @1207FX 2008-01-23

I'm sure soon we will all be able to "test" Rev2, take your time Zeph. and Thanks2

Field Note #22 @1207FX 2008-01-23

You have to admit, if you think about it, this is a 2nd job for some in the forum. Trying to get this OS out for us all. My wife/girlfriend would kick my ass for spending so much time on the comp.

Field Note #23 @braindead803 2008-01-23

ok so how do i figure out what i have? i been trying to find out my sound card from the manufacturer website along with the wireless network driver. i think this is it (Realtek Semiconductor Realtek 8185 Extensible 802.11b/g Wireless Device )(NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller )

Field Note #24 @braindead803 2008-01-23

darn! so im gonna have to plug into the router now that sucks for me

Field Note #25 @DoiX 2008-01-23

zeph, a lil question, is there a way to cancel the setup? i tried the graphics mode and all the solution i could find on the forum.. but none of them are working for rev 2 beta... i think its the 15 time i installed rev2 and still did got it to pass the account creation setup

Field Note #26 @DoiX 2008-01-23

damn... hope this bug will not occur in beta 2 (to me)

Field Note #27 @prateesh 2008-01-23

Please add the laptop keyboard & touchpad support in this rev 2

Field Note #28 @Puttabong 2008-01-23
This is the last iso I make, next updates will be shipped as Installer or ppf. At least I'm starting to upload it on ftp (damn ISP ...).

Nice to hear that, zeph! ;>
I love to see EFI in the Filename of your glorious Release Candidate 2!

Field Note #29 @bonkey 2008-01-23

rofl as soon as it's finished

Zeph, is it the (Leopard-10.5.1-AMD-EFI) rel you are uploading?

don't think it's going to work for me.. haven't played much with EFI, but isn't it an alternative to the MBR? if so it wont' work on my partitioned HD with vista running next to it.

Field Note #30 @l3opard 2008-01-23

I thought it is the rev .2. It should work in clean install (I personally would like to run linux in a partition but never got dual boot working..).

Show 190 additional community field notes (#31–#220)
Field Note #31 @steffx 2008-01-23

just to be sure ..will rev2 have SSE2-Support ?

Everybody seems to know about the FTP ... can anyone give me an account ?

Thanxx,

steffx

Field Note #32 @bonkey 2008-01-23

Steffx,

I'm sorry but the FTP is private (cause it is at my house) so i can't give you access.

The final version will be released as a public torrent. (i guess)

Field Note #33 @pαuℓzurrr. 2008-01-24

When it's uploaded to Bonkey's FTP will it shortly be on the bay? Or is this just so other beta testers can download it.

Thnx

Field Note #34 @DoiX 2008-01-24

its still for beta testers , when rev2 will be finished it would probably be on a public torrent site..

Field Note #35 @steffx 2008-01-24

ähhmmm … thanks for your answer ... wasn't my question ..anyway
will rev2 have support for sse2-systems (rev1 is not working on my system as it is sse2) ?

steffx

Field Note #36 @Puttabong 2008-01-24

RC1 has no Support for SSE2, because there is no SSE2 Kernel included.
There are tutorials about how to replace the sse3 kernel with the sse2 one, and then one has to reburn the DVD.

I don't clearly know about RC2 and SSE2, please wait for zephyroth // edit: or DoiX : ) - to answer

Field Note #37 @naquaada 2008-01-24

how about AGP? The attempt with RC1 was a bit... weird. I used ToH 9.0 Kernel which has SSE2 support. The OS was loaded, but I only got a blue screen with mouse cursor, and if I moded it in the lower right corner (I have Exposé there) there always came a bang out of the speakers

Field Note #38 @DoiX 2008-01-24
[cite] naquaada:how about AGP? The attempt with RC1 was a bit... weird. I used ToH 9.0 Kernel which has SSE2 support. The OS was loaded, but I only got a blue screen with mouse cursor, and if I moded it in the lower right corner (I have Exposé there) there always came a bang out of the speakers

this i don't know

Field Note #39 @naquaada 2008-01-24

Has anyone else tried AGP with Leopard, no care about RC1 or RC2? I know that I'm not the only one out here... (snief)

Field Note #40 @creative_ 2008-01-24

Macrumors says that 10.5.2 will be released on Friday

Field Note #41 @Lion1985 2008-01-24

zephyroth hope the version is coming out on public man im waiting for that

Keep it up man u did a good work !

Field Note #42 @Sieg247 2008-01-24

I cant wait to test it. Hope Rev.2 will support SATA controller on chipset Nforce 570 ultra.
Keep your great work, Zep !

Field Note #43 @braindead803 2008-01-24

(zephyroth)

hardware difficulties are as follows:

no sound (soundcard): Sigmatel Audio Driver version: 6.10.5337.0

no wireless internet (broadcom): Broadcom Wireless Network Driver version: 4.102.15.61

i need to find the kext files

Field Note #44 @DoiX 2008-01-24

i saw the kext files for broadcom on insanelymac…for soud search azazalia or something like this :))

Field Note #45 @braindead803 2008-01-24

JaS 10.4.8 came with a sigmatel driver im gonna boot and see if i can add it in

Field Note #46 @Lion1985 2008-01-24

zephyroth i got a question, plz dont ban me if i ask u here

When do u release it on public ?

Field Note #47 @bonkey 2008-01-24

Posting from Rev2. RC2.

The install went spotless, really no problems at all (but then again, the RC1 went spotless as well)
All hardware has been detected properly (except my audio, but that a personal thing and will never work as there is no kext for it)

System runs much faster then the RC1 build, multiple downloads / uploads works like a charm and so is running multiple application at the same time at full capacity.

will stress my system some more after work hours

peace out, bonkey

Field Note #48 @Puttabong 2008-01-24

Added it to my Images.
Took less than 1 hour to have it shipped.

Thanks Zephyroth, Thanks Bonkey.

Nice small collection!

Starting to Burn:

Burning Finished:

Field Note #49 @bonkey 2008-01-24

Puttabong, how did you make your folder look like that?

Field Note #50 @Puttabong 2008-01-24

Bonkey

You have to right click the Finder Window which you'd like to modify,
then open the Finder Display Options:

Then feel free to customize, for example add a background Image:

Use CandyBar to modify the Icons.

Greetings,
Puttabong

Field Note #51 @bonkey 2008-01-24

nice , i like it.

Just ordered an USB Sound Card, hope it will work

Field Note #52 @Puttabong 2008-01-24

I have AC97 Soundchip onboard. It works out of the Box on Rev.1, without the need of any additional kext(s)!

Good Luck with yours, Bonkey!

Field Note #53 @pαuℓzurrr. 2008-01-24

For now it's only available for beta tester's, we'll need to wait for the public release

Field Note #54 @Puttabong 2008-01-24

Just installed RC2 on another HDD.
The Installer boots very quickly - and this is truly an Out of the Box-Experience for my setup!,
even my brcm43xx wireless card is detected in the Installer, so I could play with the Network Utility.

Booted up the System for the first Time: EFI, Working Graphic Card, Internet...
shortly said: everything is working perfectly!

Adorable.

Field Note #55 @DoiX 2008-01-24

puttabong how many parts are uploaded on the ftp server? zeph said that rc2 has 66 parts but on the ftp there are only 60

Field Note #56 @Puttabong 2008-01-25

Ok, the test of RC2 convinced me. I'll soon backup all my data, and then format my SA-TA Disk to use it for RC2.

The performance is stunning, and I love to be able to install out of the box

@DoiX: There are 66 parts on the FTP!

Field Note #57 @naquaada 2008-01-25

oh boy... backuping data and creating a new system
I have a lot of machines here and I'm still working on an SSE2/AGP system 'cause I'm too lame to port the system. (smashing head against wall)

Field Note #58 @DoiX 2008-01-25

damn on windows my ftp client shows only 52 parts on osx 60 parts arghhhhh i hate it

Field Note #59 @roisoft 2008-01-25

You can add this file to rev 2, with this file the system profiler shows all the information of the CPU.

For change the name "hackintosh" you must change the applesmbios from efi.

copy the file to system/library/systemprofiler.

My second AMD system.
<a href=""><img src="" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/></a><br/>

Field Note #60 @eard 2008-01-25

wo wo wo it looks like soon we can download the rev2
hope that finally i could have mac osx runing on my lap
go go zeph! =)
good job

Field Note #61 @naquaada 2008-01-25

@ roisoft:

Yes, I did this already in Tiger. But couldn't be a standard somedays? What's the default text?

Another thing: what's all this time about EFI. But why is everyone reinstalling it and so on? There was no EFI hype during Tiger was actual. If everyone has to reinstall EFI, does Leopard RC1 is running without it? And how about the different System Profilers. The one from Puttabong with RC2 beta looks like on my Leopard RC1 system, yours (roisoft) shows all the CPU information like on my Tiger 10.4.7 system. Has this something to do with EFI?

This was my 200st attempt to waste more web space

Field Note #62 @roisoft 2008-01-25

if you want change the "hackintosh" from system profiler use this applesmbios

Field Note #63 @roisoft 2008-01-25

I don´t have rev2, I am not a betatester… I was rejected,..is a joke

Field Note #64 @bonkey 2008-01-25

Zeph,

I've burned it.. no problems, neither with the install.. nor with any post-install programs. (ps that Onix stuff is great!)

ps. zeph, check your pm at wiki. need to ask you something.

Field Note #65 @DoiX 2008-01-25

ok i finally got rc2 (darn windows) now i'm going to install it wish me luck

Field Note #66 @pαuℓzurrr. 2008-01-25

Nice to hear that the DVD is working great for everyone, nice job zephyroth
Do you think there is a possibility it's gonna be available for others, like me, soon?

Field Note #67 @creative_ 2008-01-25

Want to test the beta too maybe someone can pm me on insanelymac user account: creative_

Field Note #68 @erei33 2008-01-25

I know you don't want a ton of people asking to beta this, but I have an ATI 3870. I can test the new drivers to see if they work. Specs are:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+
Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe
2 GB RAM
230 GB 7200 RPM SATA HD
ATI 3870 w/ 512 MB Memory
I'm erei33 at InsanelyMac.

Field Note #69 @pαuℓzurrr. 2008-01-25

Anything new with these specs? don't really things so but anyway...

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+
M2N61-AX
2GB RAM
250 GB SATA HD
8600GT
NForce4/MCP61

Field Note #70 @Shiftedx 2008-01-25

thank you zephyroth I am dying for this release RC1 worked great except graphics and networking. I got my hands on the txt that has supported graphics cards somewhere in the post on insanley mac and it looks like my nvidia 6150 LE is going to work! hopefully networking to.

Thank you for all your hard work, I look forward to finally getting to use it.

Good luck on your beta ! hopefully any problems will be corrected.

Field Note #71 @naquaada 2008-01-25

here my system specs for testing: Every OS X booting HD has two bootable systems and a shared partition for both - very handy for experiments.

Asus A8N-SLI Premium
nForce 4 SLI chipset
2 GB Dual-Channel RAM 400 MHz
320 GB IDE for MacOS booting
500 GB SATA for MacOS data
Radeon X1600Pro PCI-Express
Audio Realtek ALC850
nForce LAN Marvell 88E1115
2nd LAN Marvell 88E0001
SiliconImage SiI3114 Raid Controller

I have two identical systems of this type, with an 3700+ and an 4000+ San Diego. Every component except the X1600 was working out of the box with RC1. nForce IDE/SATA/LAN working 100%. Networking Leopard-Leopard and Leopard-Tiger is working. SiliconImage 3114 is not working, was former supported by AppleVIAATA.kext. It's installed, but still not recognized. Marvell 88E0001 needs skge.kext, works in Tiger, not tested in Leopard.

Asus A8N-E FM
Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego
nForce 4 Standard Chipset
1 GB Dual-Channel RAM 400 MHz
500 GB SATA for MacOS
Radeon X1600Pro PCI-Express
Audio Realtek ALC655
LAN Realtek RTL8201CL

Note: This is a Fujitsu-Siemens OEM board. Installing made problems at first, had the 1-minute-left bug. After the second try with overwriting (like explained in the wiki) installer said the installation was failed, like on a friend's A8N-SLI Premium with an 4000+. After I restored an image which was created on the Premium board everything is ok. Networking Leopard-Leopard and Leopard-Tiger is working.

Asus K8N-E Deluxe
Athlon 64 3400+ Socket 754 Clawhammer, SSE2 only
nForce 3-250 chipset
2 GB Single-Channel-RAM 333 MHz
320GB IDE for booting MacOS
300GB IDE for MacOS data
Radeon X1600Pro AGP
Audio Realtek ALC850
nForce 3 LAN Marvell 88E1115
SiliconImage SiI3114 Raid controller

You see, the components are the same ones like on the Premium, so also on this board every component is working. But no AGP support, the X1600 is recognized as PCI. But I have QE/CI/Mode selection. Networking was working, but not anymore, the system is rather crappy now (to many patching I tried to rewrite the Leopard RC1 image which I made on the Premium and replaced the kernel with ToH 9.0.0. It was booting till the end, resolution was switched to my TFT native resolution, but I only got a blue screen with mouse cursor. If I moved it in the right bootom corner where I have Exposé everytime I got a bang out of the speakers I tried a bit with AGPGart and some AGP patches for leopard, but they led to a kernel panic.

P.S.: If I should move this maybe a <bit> too long post to another beta thread, tell me

Field Note #72 @DoiX 2008-01-25
[cite] DoiX:ok i finally got rc2 (darn windows) now i'm going to install it wish me luck

ROUND 1: K.O from leopard ... preparing for round 2

Field Note #73 @naquaada 2008-01-25

So, first try. I installed RC2 with SSE3 Kernel and it worked without problems. I had QE/CI directly after booting (got the install video). No sound, but that was my mistake I think. I migrated the files and settings of my old RC1 system to RC2 during installation, it worked - except of the password! I couldn't log in! Booting in my main system wasn't working, I got a Kernel panic with the 'OS not set' error like crawle had. I'm installing new actually. Is it better to use GUID instead of MBR when using EFI?

Field Note #74 @braindead803 2008-01-25

wow congrats on the upload and the good news on the similar ease like rc1. i can't wait

Field Note #75 @rfuilrez 2008-01-25

@ naquaada As far as I know, you HAVE to use GUID to use EFI.

Field Note #76 @naquaada 2008-01-25

No, I'm now using EFI with my old system. Strange: xbench shows lower CPU results than in RC2, but overall it's faster.

Field Note #77 @braindead803 2008-01-25

so its been uploaded for all beta testers to work wit. so a release possibly this week? or in the next few days?

Field Note #78 @DoiX 2008-01-25

stop asking… naquaada did GUID worked on your system with rc2?

Field Note #79 @prateesh 2008-01-25

Did anyone tried to install Rev2 on a AMD based laptop.

Actually i tried to install Jas 10.4.8 on a seperate pata drive using my Compaq V6211 Laptop
The install went smooth but the real problem is its not detecting my build-in keyboard.

Please include some ktext in Rev.2 before preparing final version, so it can make laptop build-in keyboard work.

Waiting patiently… Take ur full time "zephyroth"

Field Note #80 @naquaada 2008-01-25

@ DoiX: not yet, I have to repartition my HD for this. Was sitting till 4 a.m. at night on testing RC2...

Hey, can ANYBODY tell me the advantages of this EFI stuff sometimes? I ask more than one time, but never got an answer.

Field Note #81 @rockybt18 2008-01-25

zephyroth do you have beta testers with Dell Inspiron 1501? Those one are a lil bit hard to install MAC OS X on them. I did installed the Tiger with VMWare (in boot mode it can't be seen the HDD).

Sys spec:
AMD Turion64 TL-56 @ 1,8Ghz
Graphics: ATI x1150
HDD: 120GB SATA Fujitsu
Sound: SigmaTel Audio HD
Network: Broadcom 440x 10/100
WLAN Dell Wireless 1390

If you need a tester for notebooks like Inspirons i can join.

Field Note #82 @rockybt18 2008-01-25

Lol sorry. Je comprend le francais mais c'est ma faute le "e".

Field Note #84 @roisoft 2008-01-25

Install was fine but when finishes and reboot "HFS partition error" & the second time "b0 error", I hve installed from a spare partition, maybe that is the problem. I´ll try from DVD

Field Note #85 @prateesh 2008-01-25

Ok No problem …
If this solution work for me then i will take care of that on my sys
as its very specific problem with my laptop only

Thanks for your consideration

Field Note #86 @roisoft 2008-01-25

ok, i think that the problem is unmounting the disk and boot0

Field Note #87 @rockybt18 2008-01-25

Zephyr I hope I get the the ftp adress through mail or how?

Field Note #88 @bonkey 2008-01-25

Zeph, i didn't get any PM's about FTP access. nor wiki nor insanelymac

Field Note #89 @DoiX 2008-01-25

round 4... 4 Rc2- 0 Me i installed 4 times using GUID no success (i tried installing efi from a pen drive but i get *still waiting for root thing*...) now i am trying to install it using MBR wish me luck again

Field Note #90 @laxattack 2008-01-25

hey zeph i dont know if you have any testers with a compaq presario r3210 Laptop or not if you want specs plz let me know, also if you have anyone with a ati card with dev id of 0x71c6

Field Note #91 @laxattack 2008-01-25

nope that one is on my desktop sapphire ati x1650 pro

Field Note #92 @laxattack 2008-01-25

it works fine on tiger but i would like to test on leo, but also cant get rev 1 to work so id like to test rev 2

Field Note #93 @Puttabong 2008-01-26

Just installed RC2 completly fresh, backuped the data drives before!

I had to fix the Bootloader manually, but that was easy.

(Startupfiletool and other needed tools are on the DVD already, so there is no need to use additional an additional usb drive:
They are located in /usr/standalone/i386)

Works nice.

Thanks for the System Profiler file, roisoft

-> talkmac bookair.com/zenpath/colorlab.png

Field Note #94 @Puttabong 2008-01-26

No, it's perfect. The Performance increased a lot since it has EFI.
The system performance feels very smooth, and programs open (even) faster than on Rev1.

System Updater told me that everything is up to date - iTunes and other Programs that I tested work nice.

It basically feels like the RC1 that I customized for a week or two to make it work nicely,
but much more smooth and faster, I guess that's because the stock kexts work very well together.

Edit: The processor load is now at about 4-8%, with the same programs opened Rev1 had 20%, wow!

Good Job!

Field Note #95 @naquaada 2008-01-26

I don't see a big difference, I even have the feeling that's a bit slower. Would it be a difference if I use GUID? Would it still be possible to use Dual-Boot with the Windows boot selector?

Field Note #96 @komeet 2008-01-26
[cite] prateesh:zephyroth Looks like this works can you please include this Still i have to test it ... will check it on Jas 10.4.8 installation & post you the result http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=78001&… ↗

Please read my comments about the touchpad kext here: osx.kb ot.de/comments.php?DiscussionID=17&page=3#Item_36

I don't know if this kext is compatible with the normal one but I guess it's worth to find out.

Field Note #97 @Puttabong 2008-01-26

zeph, actually the computer is now also much more Quiet!

When I had lots of applications opened on Rev1, then it would become slower and the performance would decrease.

Now there aren't any loud or busy sounding sounds =D

edit: I currently have 15 Applications opened, Installing an Adobe Suite, and I'm adding about 1000 songs to iTunes and browse the Web using Safari with many tabs open, and it's quite and everything runs like with zero apps opened :>

Field Note #98 @naquaada 2008-01-26

@ zephyroth:

I tried Xbench and the CPU seems to be slower. On RC1 I got over 86 sometimes, on RC2 it was mostly 79-82, maximum was 85. But overall it seems to be a better, about 106 compared to 105. But I have kinda feeling it's slower. I'm now restructuring my HD with GUID partition table.

Field Note #99 @rockybt18 2008-01-26

bonkey there is something new about my beta subscription? I have a lot of time tonight and next week.

Field Note #100 @riangeli 2008-01-26

Hi Zeph! Sorry for asking! but.. Have you already beta tester on Asrock MB whit Shoutbridge?

here is my specs:
CPU:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.200Mhz
SSE/SSE2/SSE3 registers

Graphics:
ATi Radeon X1950 Pro PCIe

RAM:
2048Mb DDR3 @ 800Mhz

Asrock ALiveXFire-eSATA2
Chipset:
- Northbridge: AMD 480X CrossFire™
- Southbridge: ATI™ SB600

Audio:
-HD Audio (ALC888 Audio Codec)

LAN 10/100/1000 Mb/s:
-Realtek RTL8111B

Ports:
- 1 x PS/2 Mouse Port
- 1 x PS/2 Keyboard Port (have problems in X.5.1)
- 1 x Serial Port: COM1
- 1 x Parallel Port (ECP/EPP Support)
- 2 x Ready-to-Use USB 2.0 Ports
- 2 x eSATAII Ports

HDDS: (for testing use)
Western Digital 160Gb ATA
Lacie 60Gb SATA

Logitech PS2 Keyboard
Logtech USB-mice

I will send here the full test results!
only my bad language is little "problem"

Field Note #101 @roisoft 2008-01-26

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This is my second machine, 4200+ X2 rev2 works like a charm, congratulations Zephyrot, this is the best installer ever!

With Appleyukon2.kext I have kernel panic on reboot for A8N32-sli dlx , much better the first version.

I am going to see the FixGUID.. i have been very busy, sorry...

Great work!

Field Note #102 @riangeli 2008-01-26

Roisoft

It seems you have same processor like mine is
what MB do you have on it? Do you have AM2 Boost or etc Enabled?
and have you PS2 keyboard? i have PS2 keyboard problem in rev.1 and it keeps
bother me even i add the ApplePS2Controller.kext

Field Note #103 @roisoft 2008-01-26

I have an "old" motherboard A8n32-sli dlx 939 socket. I don´t have problems with my PS2 devices.

Field Note #104 @bonkey 2008-01-26
[cite] rockybt18:bla.

Pls pm me at Wiki pages, i'll give you the instructions you need

Field Note #105 @naquaada 2008-01-26

So, formatted and installed the system with GUID partition table - with the result that's not booting 'Non system disk'. Is this normal?

Field Note #106 @naquaada 2008-01-26

RC2 beta - it's nothing for absolute beginners.

I did a really noobie installation, HD was formatted with MBR. I didn't use the optional installs. Result: nothing working.

1st Problem: HD wasn't bootable
2nd Problem: No partition was to able to make bootable! I tested all 3 partitions on my system, nothing, I didn't even came to the Darwin menu. HD drive LED was on all the time as it should start booting. HD was IDE Primary Master and there was no other drive in the computer.
3rd Problem: When I left the installation DVD in the drive was booting, but stopped after a few seconds, but without a kernel panic. I couldn't check why 'cause the grey boot screen is activated. But I didn't get the message to switch off the computer, so it couldn't be a kernel panic.

Here' my suggestions for now:

Default settings:

- AC97Audio
- nForce Chipset
- forcedeth driver
- MBR bootwriter

I recommend these things not only 'cause I have an nForce Chipset but they were activated in every Tiger DVD and should run fine. The nForce chipset is also rather common. The MBR bootloader should be default 'cause the most people are using MBR and GUID seems not to be working yet. Other things:

Optional settings:

- verbose mode (for error checking)

Installation DVD changes:

- only select the English and language which was selected during the installation. I had this already in an image.
- maybe a direct entering of the optional installs? I also had this, it's not Apple-Style but so it can't be overlooked.
- some install options should be already collapsed, f.e. graphics drivers and chipset drivers.

I'm trying a second n00bie installation now, will tell you what happened soon.

Field Note #107 @naquaada 2008-01-26

So, test of 3rd n00bie-Installation, this time half-n00b 'cause i selected the MBR bootloader.

This time it booted, but it stopped very soon. I tested with -v, the first pause came at the Firewire initialization, after this 'waiting for root device'. No nForce driver...

Field Note #108 @naquaada 2008-01-26

I think we should wait till the 10.5.2 update is released and AMD fixed, look at the mass of changes:

macs coop.com/articles/2008/01/20/mac-os-x-10-5-2-update-bring-endless-list-fixes

Field Note #109 @rockybt18 2008-01-26

Bonkey i've left to you a message on insanelymac forum.Give me there the instructions if you can. Tnx

Field Note #110 @bonkey 2008-01-26

Rockybt18.

You are downloading the wrong version. You need to download the EFI Release!.

Field Note #111 @rockybt18 2008-01-26

Oh crap! Thought I needed the other version
No problem.

Field Note #112 @naquaada 2008-01-26

@ zephyroth

Like the first pic. I would close Audio drivers and Network drivers. I liked it better when wired LAN and Wifi had seperate folders. Have you the VIA Rhine ethernet driver, crawle was searching it. Azalia is High Definition Audio, right? How about combining the TOH Kernel, Plocies supplémentarires and the bootloaders alltogether in a 'System' folder, MBR bootloader selected as default?

Here's the k'd paragon NTFS driver for MacOS. Test it, on my system it actually isn't working, but i only have an Tiger SSE2 system actually. The HD's are recognized, but I can't activate them in Disk Utility. It's a .zip file, not .rar, so rename it.

Field Note #113 @DoiX 2008-01-26

paragon works with my system.. macfuse and ntfs-3g unmounts my ntfs partitions permanently

Field Note #114 @Bing 2008-01-26

well, zephyroth, just wondering if you can release rev.2 for now?

and as for 10.5.2 you can release it as rev.3 which everybody would still looking forward to

Field Note #115 @gully666uk 2008-01-26

can you include sb600 kexts please for my motherboard to install, as it takes so long to install without them.thank you its all ready included

Field Note #116 @rockybt18 2008-01-26

Rev.2 is not ready. It needs to be more tested. As you see in these thread there are several problems that need to be corrected.
On topic: In an hour max I finish to down and I start testing on my notebook. Coming soon with impressions. Hope that I can boot it directly not using VMWare.
Wish me luck.

Field Note #117 @DoiX 2008-01-26
[cite] gully666uk:can you include sb600 kexts please for my motherboard to install, as it takes so long to install without them.thank you its all ready included

sb600 kext are included along with many others

Field Note #118 @bonkey 2008-01-27

YESSSS! for the first time ever i have SOUND!

now i can trow off vista

a cheap-ass usb sound card for 2 euro works like a charm out off the box

[cite] zephyroth:Ok I will modify the Network section. I'm not using Paragon NTFS but MacFuse and NTFS-3G , it's working great on my sytem.

Zeph, is this for NTFS Write support? wanna share?

Field Note #119 @Puttabong 2008-01-27

Bonkey, MacFuse is free, download it here:

code.goo gle.com/p/macfuse/downloads/list

Field Note #120 @DoiX 2008-01-27

oh yeah finally managed to install rc2(don't know how i did it but it works)

Field Note #121 @naquaada 2008-01-27

I had sometimes a strange problem that I couldn't repartition: Disk Utility said it couldn't deactivate the partition (which the system was installed to, partition 2 in my case). After a reboot it is possible.

Field Note #122 @Puttabong 2008-01-27

zephyroth, Tested RC2 for 1 day now, and I can confirm that it's rock solid and the performance is perfect!

Greetings

Field Note #123 @DoiX 2008-01-27

glad to hear that puttabong i'm testing RC2 for about an hour and i get random freezes, i think the cause is my ntfs hard disk...

Field Note #124 @naquaada 2008-01-27

zephyroth: I could unmount them manually in Disk Utility, but it wasn't unmounting them automatically.

Field Note #125 @DoiX 2008-01-27

lol heres a strange thing :)) my ata drives are being detected as sata =))

Field Note #126 @naquaada 2008-01-27

DoiX: These are so problems which aren't so easy to solve. My NEC ND-3540A DVD-RW drive is not detected in BIOS but it works without problems in MacOS, I even can burn with it.
What do you have 4 a controller? My onbard Siliconimage SiI3114 Raid Controller was shown on Parallel-SCSI devices

Field Note #127 @DoiX 2008-01-27

its not a big problem i just said it's strange … my report RC2 works great... faster the rev1 (xbench score 33) rev2 RC2 (xbench score 66) and i found out what's causing the freezes, windows xp partition

Field Note #128 @Lion1985 2008-01-27

Zephyroth have u got a bet tester with this system or anything like that ?

Mobo: ASROCK, AM2NF3-VSTA (socket AM2) (sound onboard CM6501)
Chipset: nVidia nForce3 250
Cpu: AMD ATHLON 64 x2 @ 2,3 ghz (SSE2+SSE3 is included)
Graphics: Nvidia Geforce 7600GS (256mb)
HD: Samsung 230gb
ram: 1gb no name 533
DVD: NEC DVD RW ND-4551A

if u havent any testers like that im rdy for that to test and i give here full report back, i have enough time for that.
u can contact me at insanlymac forum as Lion2008, or email me [email protected]

Good luck Zephyroth

Field Note #129 @Jojo 2008-01-27

@ zephyroth

Is it possible to run the Rev.2 using VMWare?

Greetings

Field Note #130 @rfuilrez 2008-01-27

Well, everyone else is doing it so…

AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ (Socket 939)
Asus A8N5X Mainboard
ATI x1600 Pro 512mb
2GB Corsair DDR400

Can I beta too?

Field Note #131 @vinbuntu 2008-01-27

Why don't some one release it on Rapidshare, so we all can test the darn thing? Thus it would be perfected faster. And no one except for the uploader would lose some bandwidth and time. You can password protect the thing and PM the codes and links to earlier members only. I want to see how much of your work is going to work on my 6150 go notebook and x1250 690G desktop. And figure out a way to modify the kext to get it to work. I am not hoping the nvidia 6150 go will work at all, because the way it was designed and was especially designed for HP. but if the x1250 was somewhat based on the x700 I am sure there should be a way to make it work fully, because even thought it uses shared memory its was designed to at least to the OS as seen as a separate card, attached to PCI-e x16 slot. Thus avivo and can operate independently even with another ATI avivo compatitible card inserted allowing for upto 4 monitors to simultaniously operate. The motherboard I have is the M2A-VM HDMI, shitty board, it was a M2A-VM at first than, it was fucked up and they gave me this as a replacement, but without the HDMI card attachment. But at least I got a firewire plug now. Never really used it because it really suck with all the bad BIOS implementation. After like 7 months Asus finally got it right with the newest BIOS 1604 beta. Now it is usable. Like a MB should be. I aleady have a hackintosh built with Intel, was using TOH and not all things was recongnised until I did a fresh installation with Kalyway's Leopard release. Now even thought most of the stuff works, I still cannot shut down fully, I can restart, it can't sleep using vanilla kernel and it kernel panics all the time. Especially went I decompress my downloads. Every single time. I don't know if it is because it doesn't like my Q6600 or what, but I am frustrated, Don't see anyone else having this problem. I am still trying to figure out how to do the EFI-GFX thing netkas has introduced. Supposely gets all video cards working and even full audio. But everyone in the osx86scene forum seems to be speaking Martian or something. No step by step guide, justa bunch of gibberish to me. Tiger was so much easier to mod, when all I have to do was buy part close to the real thing as possible. But once you get a taste you want all your computers to run as much mac as possible and as powerful as you can afford. Just to show the world that we can build a faster Mac Pro for 1/4 of the price of the real thing.

Field Note #132 @naquaada 2008-01-27

Info: Paragon NTFS isn't working on my systems, neither on Tiger nor on Leopard.

Field Note #133 @naquaada 2008-01-27

Zephyroth:

For upgrade and repairing reasons: How about about a bootable CD which does not contain the system, only drivers and maybe updates. It should be possible to deinstall drivers from there if something goes wrong during the main installation. It should be optimized for a really quick boot, so no language selection and so on, a direct jump into the drive selection menu and then the menu for optional installations. The only Utilities are Terminal and Disk Utility, maybe prepared with Xslimmer (intel code only) to save space. If it fits to CD size it's also easier to download than a new DVD image. Would this be possible?

Field Note #134 @mrburns05 2008-01-28

Okay i dont want to bug about beta testing - im fine with waitingtill release, but just as an offer - if you need testing on either of these machines im willing ( and im not a noob, ive been doing this since 10.4.6)

Desktop:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 2.2ghz (OC'ed 2.0 = 3800+) socket 939 sse3
Abit KN8 NF4 Ultra mobo
Geforce 7900 GT/KO
2gb Corsair DDR400
Onboard Realtek ALC850 (got rid of audigy- no need for it)
Linksys PCI wireless card with speed booster (BCM 4320- working in rev 1 out of box)
SAta 3.0 HDD 120gb
Logitech G11 keyboard and mx610 mouse (working fine with USBOverdrive)

Laptop: ( i still have not gotten either tiger or leo to install - hanvt tried much though)
HP pavailion ZD2000
1gb DDR 333
amd sempron @ 1.52ghz (3000+) sse3
onbaord ati m200 graphics
ide 60gb HDD
using touchpad and laptop keyboard (no mouse for this one)
wifi= BCM 4318

hoping for the best, and thanks to all of you already helping !

Field Note #135 @naquaada 2008-01-28

It would interest me why are so different problems with the nForce 4 chipsets and how to recognize the differences between nForce 4, nForce 4 Ultra, nForce 4 SLI, nForce 410, nForce 430. Does it belong to the onboard chips? My nForce 3 and nForce 4 SLI boards have Realtek ALC850 Audio and Marvell 88E1115 LAN, they're working 100% including SATA. Another nForce 4 board without SLI has Realtek ALC655 Audio and Realtek RTL8201CL LAN and it's also working prefect. A friend has an AM2 board which also shows nForce 4 as chipset, Realtek Audio ALC850 Audio works but not LAN, I think it was an Attensic chip or something else. How about a little nForce 4 differences list to compare the problems?

Field Note #136 @pαuℓzurrr. 2008-01-28

This is my nForce 430 (MCP61) without SLI, Realtek RTL8201CL/CP for LAN, didn't get LAN to work but some are saying it should work with forcedeth, Realtek ALC888 for Audio, which works with ALCinject, SATA not working with rev 1 but should work in 2

Field Note #137 @roisoft 2008-01-28

Hey zephyroth, I´ve found the 10.5.2 kext from 9C20

scott dangel.com/files/NVInstallerV.31.pkg

Field Note #138 @Jojo 2008-01-28

@ mrburns05

Hey, if you are not a noob. You have an HP Notebook. I also have a HP Notebook but differet.
Have you working sound on your HP Notebook? I get not working sound in my Tiger 10.4.9!

Read this: Analog devices SoundMax AD1981HD on HP notebook
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=37756&… ↗

I thing the whole HP family is affected by the problem!

@ zephyroth
Is there a solution in Leopard 10.5.1 Rev.2?

HP NX6325:
Mac version 10.4.9 uphuck v1.3
AMD Turion™ 64 X2 TL-56 (1,8 GHz)
2 GB DDR2 / 667
ATI Radeon Express 1150
ATI SB400 S-ATA (60 GB HDD, DVD-RW)
Lan card (Broadcom 57xx)
Wireless card (Broadcom BCM43xx)
SoundMax (AD1981HD)
Synaptics Touchpad 6

Field Note #139 @crawle 2008-01-29

Does this nVidia kext work on my Zeph Leopard? Maybe with it I can get my dual monitor work.

-crawle

Field Note #140 @roisoft 2008-01-29

I don´t Know, You can try it and post your results here

Field Note #141 @crawle 2008-01-29

Okay, I've tested it. It works, but at mine only one monitor. Like before.

Field Note #142 @naquaada 2008-01-29

pay $6000 to this froum, I'll think you'd get it then.

Field Note #143 @Puttabong 2008-01-29

hehe, naquaada, right you are.

I'd send a Rev2 DVD via post... if one donates a small forum fund

Field Note #144 @naquaada 2008-01-29

If a donation would be for a good purpose I had no problems with it - I also donated at insanelymac.
Forums like these keep OSx86 and it's community alive, in our case a very close community. If we only had insanelymac for zephyroth's DVD we couldn't have shared so many information - and it's very much fun in here.

Field Note #145 @Puttabong 2008-01-29

Friends, first of all, donate to zephyroth for his awesome work! And then, if you really like to, you can consider a small donation for the forums.

@phreakazoidz: I have to check how much it costs me to send a small envelope with the DVD

Field Note #146 @naquaada 2008-01-29

A really great thing would be an OSx86 party - in the C64 and Amiga demo scene this is common, the people are coming from all parts of Europe, sometimes all of the world. It would be a way to find people with the same interests and it would be a perfect way to betatest in realtime cause there are a lot of different platforms available.

Field Note #147 @1207FX 2008-01-30

lmao, for some of us, would be much cheaper to buy the new mac

Field Note #148 @creative_ 2008-01-30

I have kernel panic with apple efi kext in rev 2
dont know what to do =(

Field Note #149 @Puttabong 2008-01-30

creative, Rc2? Did you actually choose the proper packages such as SSE3 Kernel at "Customize", before Installing?

Field Note #150 @creative_ 2008-01-30

I didnt chose SSE3 Kernel i think will try again. Nforce driver and MBR Partition is right for me im at Nforce 5?

Field Note #151 @Puttabong 2008-01-30

If you click the arrow next to nForce Driver, then you can choose between nForce 3/4/5 and others.
You have to pick the right one.

If you chose Guid to partition your Leo Harddrive, then choose GUID at Customize as well.
If you chose MBR, then choose MBR Boot fix.

Greetings

Field Note #152 @creative_ 2008-01-30

hmm cant remember I will try again and report here

Field Note #153 @Anonymous 2008-01-30

Wil this take 5 hours to install on my labtop like rev 1?

Field Note #154 @creative_ 2008-01-30

Ok i tried now there is an other kernel panic :((

I took some screenshots

getting angry with xp

Field Note #155 @Anonymous 2008-01-30

remove the intelcpupowermanagment.kext with the -s command if you cant make it there make likee a 5 gb partition and then install tiger, then do it from there... you should be able to boot then

Field Note #156 @Puttabong 2008-01-30

This is what zephyroth says regarding that kext:

Wow ...AppleIntelCPUPowermanagement shouldn't be loaded ... It shouldn't be intalled ! I've just made a fresh installation of Beta2 and it's not in Extensions folder.
Field Note #157 @Puttabong 2008-01-30

Boot up in the Installer DVD and use the Terminal to delete it?

cd /Volumes/YourDisk/System/Library/Extensions/

Field Note #158 @DoiX 2008-01-30

creative i too got this error because my hdd wasn't erased properly, it still had some old leopard parts try using the 0 option or format it to ntfs (from windows) then in hfs(try not journaled), if puttabong's solution doesn't work

Field Note #159 @creative_ 2008-01-31
[cite] DoiX:creative i too got this error because my hdd wasn't erased properly, it still had some old leopard parts try using the 0 option or format it to ntfs (from windows) then in hfs(try not journaled), if puttabong's solution doesn't work
[cite] Puttabong:Boot up in the Installer DVD and use the Terminal to delete it? cd /Volumes/YourDisk/System/Library/Extensions/

i will try

Field Note #160 @Anonymous 2008-01-31

does this take about 5 hours to install on every ones comp? can you post how long it takes on your system as well as your specs? its taking 5 hours and 42 min, on mine… only 43 min left to go - rev 2

Field Note #161 @Puttabong 2008-01-31

Hackintosh4Life: Actually it takes about 15 Minutes for me to install!

OS X: Leopard 10.5.1 by zephyroth
Board: DFI LanParty UT nF4 Ultra-D
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+
Graphic: Colorful GeForce 7600 GT
HD: Maxtor DiamondMax 10, 300 GB + Maxtor 40 GB IDE
Drives: LG GDR-H30N-BB, Plextor PX-810UF
Control: Apple Keyboard, Apple Mighty Mouse

Field Note #162 @DoiX 2008-01-31

lol... hackintosh4life on my pc it takes exactly 2h 30min

Field Note #163 @Anonymous 2008-01-31

hmm, thats really werid, do you know what might be affecting the speed? I have tried setting my video card from 256mb to 32mb and still nothing, 1gb ram...

Field Note #164 @Anonymous 2008-01-31

im almost done the driver for the 200m/1100 users ill put it on the ftp, when its done

Field Note #165 @Anonymous 2008-01-31

x200 is the same isent it?… if not whats the dev id, ill try to get it in too

Field Note #166 @DoiX 2008-01-31

5954 is the id, callisto works fine but no QE/CI without these i can't experience the 100% of leopard

Field Note #167 @creative_ 2008-01-31

I got out the box experience now. Problem was i didn't erase the volume with 0 method. Thanx to doix. Good speed with rev2

Field Note #168 @Anonymous 2008-01-31

mmhm… the driver wont be ready for a while guys, and dont get your hopes up… good job creative_, so your in leo right now?

Field Note #169 @frying_fish 2008-01-31

Thats what you hope for zephyroth, have you got it setup for svn or cvs so that a few of you can help develop it easier together?

Field Note #170 @DoiX 2008-01-31
[cite] creative_:I got out the box experience now. Problem was i didn't erase the volume with 0 method. Thanx to doix. Good speed with rev2

no problem

[cite] zephyroth:You know what ? I'm happy to see you working on it like that ! I'm not alone and ... God ... It's good !

zeph i would like to help you but i know only php and a little bit of c++, all i can do for now is beta test

Field Note #171 @creative_ 2008-01-31
[cite] hackintosh4life:mmhm… the driver wont be ready for a while guys, and dont get your hopes up… good job creative_, so your in leo right now?

Yes good work by zephyroth. Better speed with EFI

Field Note #172 @Anonymous 2008-01-31

Great!, 19* more minutes until my install is done - hopefully no problems, or else illl have to try to fix, or wait another 5 hours, creative_ are you MBR or GUID?

Field Note #173 @frying_fish 2008-01-31

wow hackintosh, can't believe its taking that long for you, I know when I was trying the kalyway install on my laptop (which I think unfortunately the hardware may not work with, possibly a bit old) but that was only claiming to take just over an hour, but then again even getting to the installer took 25mins-30mins.

Field Note #174 @Anonymous 2008-01-31

GUID, is what apple use's on the real intel mac's and from what i've read is that rev 2 supports it, since my install takes 5 hours, i dident do it, just in case its a bit buggy, it would probably give you a performance boost, and a more "genuine" experience if you will.

Wyatt M.

Field Note #175 @DoiX 2008-01-31

hackintosh4life you have dual core or single ? sata or ata?

edit: rev2 supports it but the post install GUID script has a bug, if you chose GUID you must fix it after the install is finished

Field Note #176 @Anonymous 2008-01-31

I have a dual core Amd turion 64 x2 TL-50 (1.6 Ghz or 1.5 Ghz cant remember) and im pretty sure its a sata, cant check right now, ill edit this in 16 min

PS: everyone can call me Wyatt, hackintosh4life is too long

Field Note #177 @DoiX 2008-01-31

hmm... i have a single core 1.9 ghz with and old seagate ata (my sata hdd is destroyed thx to my early leo installs) anyway i dont know why it takes 5 hours to install , its really strange

edit : ok Wyatt

Field Note #178 @frying_fish 2008-01-31

Only thing I could suggest that would be causing it is slow dvd drive and slow hdd, harsh that it takes that long though.

Field Note #179 @Puttabong 2008-01-31

I have tested several Harddisks in the past.

On 300 GB Maxtor SATA it takes about 15-20 minutes.
On my 40 GB Maxtor IDE it takes about 25-30 minutes,
on a very old 20 GB Maxtor IDE it takes 1 hour,
trying to install it on a Western Digital 70 GB USB External would have taken about 4h 30 min

Field Note #180 @DoiX 2008-01-31

hmm... i think i'm gonna buy a new dvd driver :))) just so i won't wait 2 hours when installing osx

Field Note #181 @Anonymous 2008-01-31

o shit, i think its hanging at 7 min… if i do the trick where i start the installer again will it still be 5 hours?

and do i selct my optionals again?

Field Note #182 @frying_fish 2008-01-31

hopefully I would say it wouldn't, since it seems if yours is taking 5hrs instead of 30mins, then 7mins ~ the 1 min hang, so you should be able to get it to skip on to the final bits.

Good luck

Field Note #183 @DoiX 2008-01-31
[cite] hackintosh4life shit, i think its hanging at 7 min… if i do the trick where i start the installer again will it still be 5 hours? and do i selct my optionals again?

wyatt do do nothing leave it until the menu bars dissapers or the menus don't work anymore

Field Note #184 @Anonymous 2008-01-31

too late now, already took fish's advice, hopfully it wont be another 5 hours

do i select my optionals again? or have they already been installed?

Field Note #185 @DoiX 2008-01-31

dont select them.. anyway i'm almost 100% sure that you will get kernel panic when trying to boot into leo or the setup hang error

Field Note #186 @Puttabong 2008-01-31

Hmm, I think you should select them, because otherwise the missing bootloader won't be installed. At least I think I did so when I had the freeze error with RC1. On Rc2 this doesn't happen anymore.

Field Note #187 @Anonymous 2008-01-31

only once in my life have i ever got a kernel panic from on install, and that was cuz i was useing an intel kernel, and i never have the set up hang, even if... im ready to fight!
but why do you say?

PS, ive used the toh kernel before, so i shouldent get a panic

Field Note #188 @Anonymous 2008-01-31

it wasent 5 gb, it was 5.7 gb and it looks like im asking for another 5 hours

shouldent say looks like, i shoukld say "i am looking at another" litterly

Field Note #189 @DoiX 2008-01-31

wyatt, you'd better format the drive with 0 then install it when it says 7 minutes left leave it until it becomes 4 and the progress bar stoppes, turn of the pc and boot into leo .. oh and heres another advice at 7 minutes left open the install log and check if the install goes fine, if the post install partion script is install and if the last row you see before it hags is "finalizing disk" if you see that row(its a good thing) you should wait 15 minutes more because the computer will shutdown on its own

Field Note #190 @Anonymous 2008-01-31

Ok well, ill post up whats going on with my labtop in about 5 hours…

Field Note #191 @frying_fish 2008-01-31

I'm watching, but until I get a copy of the iso there isn't much I can do really (that and I can't do much until I've installed it which I can do from Friday evening).

Field Note #192 @Xxp/TuX 2008-01-31
[cite] Puttabong:I have tested several Harddisks in the past. On 300 GB Maxtor SATA it takes about 15-20 minutes. On my 40 GB Maxtor IDE it takes about 25-30 minutes, on a very old 20 GB Maxtor IDE it takes 1 hour, trying to install it on a Western Digital 70 GB USB External would have taken about 4h 30 min

Have you (or anyone Rev 2 tester) ever got any problem with Rev 2 concerning with the DVD drives?. I never have had this problem, but is good to know due to some people can not make it work...

Field Note #193 @DoiX 2008-01-31

i had problems with my dvd drive in rev1 but in rev2 rc2 everything works perfectly

Field Note #194 @Xxp/TuX 2008-01-31

Good news!...Well, in advance that is a very good sign!. One DVD drive less, lol =) .

Field Note #195 @Anonymous 2008-01-31

OK, install went fine, but i have an issue... working on solution, meaning its my top priority, driver's im doing right now - bonkey and 1100/200m/x200 will be later, due to this set back

Field Note #196 @vinbuntu 2008-01-31

-----> hackintosh4life

Awesome work. Do you think your method will work on the x1250 from the 690g chipset? is the 1100 similiar in anyway as the x1250? What my understanding is that the x1250 addresses memory like a normal Graphics Card. To the OS it is a independent PCIe x16 card with its own memory, even through it uses shared memory. And it address memory at 200mhz x2, dual channel to feed its 400mhz core. Which is completely separate from the main system use of memory. On my AMD BE-2350 Athlon x2 2.1ghz it address my memory at 321.xxmhz x2 for the CPU. Even overclocking the CPU and memory the Graphics access its portion of the memory remains the same. I am using a M2A-VM HDMI motherboard from Asus. It use to be able to over clock the on GPU with earlier bioses I read. But too many issues, with the newest bios this function is disabled. When I get access to Rev. 2 I will try to take abit of x700 (suppose to base somewhat based on the GPU) and x1600 and 2600 HD kext. To see if I can get it to work. But I would really like to get your inputs and methods so I don't have to start from scratch.

GOOD WORK MAN!

As for Geforce 6150 go. Memory address the same way 950GMA also, maybe you can do something about that stubborn on board GPU. The faster the memory your CPU address the better performance the GPU gets. Unlike the x1250.

Field Note #197 @Anonymous 2008-01-31

Unfortunately I do not have much knolage with that card, but all I know, is nothing but the GMA950 address's the memory like the 1100/x200/200m but its worth a try when i release the driver...

Wyatt M.

I should have a beta on the FTP, by sunday… to work the kinks out…FInal version by the next week or less… I know thats long but i have school and I need to make audio drivers, as well as get the Rev 2 amd leo working on my system

Field Note #198 @rockybt18 2008-02-01

Coming with news after a week of problems with the rev.2.
On my notebook all went fine at 1st sight, my HDD is recognized, finally!. But after this are some problems. When i start the install sometimes it blocks, i need to move the cursor to continue the instalation. All the instal took about an hour. After this i wanted to boot from HDD. Nothin'. No OS installed. Hmm triyed again, reinstalled 3 times and nothin'. Then I let the DVD inside, it appears the Apple logo, and do nothing.
Then I triyed to install on my AMD Athlon64 3800+ sk 939, all went smooth, BUT! it boots only with the DVD inserted. My audio card its not recognized out of the box.
What I did wrong?

Field Note #199 @Anonymous 2008-02-01

OK, im too lazy to wait 5 hours every time I install on my labtop HD so right now im installing on my Externel 320 Gb - Ill post back and say how long it takes, Peace

Wyatt M.

EDIT :

It appears that its not the HD thats making take 5 hours and it cant be the cd drive because its just the same as anyone else's..:( ill post back in about 5 hours

EDIT :
Mabey it is actually, because now it doesnt say 5 hours, i'm actually down to 1 hour and 37 min with my external, Also someone needs to edit the wiki - the real old one, because it says you cant do a native install, and that is nont true

Field Note #200 @frying_fish 2008-02-01

so, very slow hdd / driver for your hdd then. wiki saying not able to do native, does it suggest a way to do it in vmware then?

Field Note #201 @Anonymous 2008-02-01

yeah, it tells how to do it in vm ware, but really whats the point of a vm ware or virtual machine when you cant have the real "genuine" experience

PS ; it better work on my external because i deleted my imac time machine back ups!

Wyatt M.

Field Note #202 @frying_fish 2008-02-01

well, getting something running in vmware would be a nice testout as well.

So by old wiki which one do you mean, as osx86.wikidot.com doesn't seem to have anything about vmware

Field Note #203 @Anonymous 2008-02-01

no the osx86 project one… - the one thats linked with insanely - would post a lind but im to lazy

PS: my installs done, im rebooting as we speak... ill post soon

Field Note #204 @Anonymous 2008-02-01

Ok well, It installed fine, now im getting a blinking cursor, witch cant be good!… trying some fixs.. post back soon

finaly got it working… put in a custom kernal i used.. . worked with out -legacy… ill put it on the ftp later.. if you want

Field Note #205 @chavonbravo 2008-02-01

if it works w/out -legacy don't that mean we could now have 64-bit instead of 32-bit, hackintosh4life?

Field Note #206 @Anonymous 2008-02-01

I was using a custom one I edited because they toh dident work, but then I renenmed the partition, so I put the toh back in and it worked fine, 64 bit works - as far as I know, meaning no more -legacy!

Coming soon in rev 2!

- lol movie ad!

Field Note #207 @Anonymous 2008-02-01

THE BETA FOR THE DRIVER IS DONE, NO ACCILERATION, YET! BUT I HAVE CORE IMAGE AND QUAZTS EXTREME SUPPORTED! IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME TAKE A LOOK AT MY SCREEN SHOT!

o crap sorry about the caps, i had them on from another post!

Wyatt M.

Field Note #208 @timdsmith72 2008-02-01

With the ToH kernel, they must have done some binary hacking, because even though you don't have to do -legacy any more, it's still only running 32 bits.

Field Note #209 @megaargon1 2008-02-01

Zephyroth, I am willing to join the beta team and survey the bugs that I encounter along the way. If you please personally invite (via generic e-mail) me that would be great, thanks! I feel every participant who is dealing with Rev.1 should at least have some experience with Rev.2 before it officially comes out. When is the official Rev.2 slated to release? Many are anxious to download and install on their machines. Thank you!

Field Note #210 @Xxp/TuX 2008-02-01
[cite] hackintosh4life:I was using a custom one I edited because they toh dident work, but then I renenmed the partition, so I put the toh back in and it worked fine, 64 bit works - as far as I know, meaning no more -legacy! Coming soon in rev 2! - lol movie ad!

Oh man!...I do not know what are you doing but, a 64 bits kernel? lol... Keep working then:good luck!

Field Note #211 @eard 2008-02-01

wow thats cool wyatt
i think you are helping to improve the osx's installations =)
cya men, good job

Field Note #212 @k3nny 2008-02-01

@Authorhackintosh4life:

Nice work. I see you used Slice's files.. i - too - have a 200m chipset and i wish you good luck.
If you need someone to test something, ill do it. Yeah, thats the standard sentence .. dont ban me
BTW: The screenshot shows 128mb for the chipset. Does it really use 128mb ?

Field Note #213 @roisoft 2008-02-01

"64 bit enabled" ? I don´t think so, please post the geekbench results here or take a picture of the system start...

When the Acpiplatform load the system shows if 64 bit is enabled or not, take a picture please, and post it here, it would be awesome if the 64 bit mode is enabled only editing the mach_kernel..

Field Note #214 @Puttabong 2008-02-01

Start GeekBench 64 Bit, Wyatt. It's most likely going to tell you that this architecture isn't supported for your system.

Field Note #215 @Anonymous 2008-02-01
[cite] k3nny:@Authorhackintosh4life: Nice work. I see you used Slice's files.. i - too - have a 200m chipset and i wish you good luck. If you need someone to test something, ill do it. Yeah, thats the standard sentence .. dont ban me BTW: The screenshot shows 128mb for the chipset. Does it really use 128mb ?

as I said earlier i started out with slice's files but since they were hard for the noob's to use I took slices and added more so its more like mine now! hahaha... As for testing YES PELASE! I need all the testers with the 200m/x200/1100 - PS: anyone with dev id - 5975 i want testers for that! but i would need to you go on irc or msn, for testing.
and it use's 128 mb yes. im working on a way to use the full 256 mb (thats what mine is) but so far it just gives a white screen.

Wyatt M.

Field Note #216 @Anonymous 2008-02-01

As for geek bench, let me pull that up, posting later

Field Note #217 @Xxp/TuX 2008-02-01
[cite] Puttabong:Start GeekBench 64 Bit, Wyatt. It's most likely going to tell you that this architecture isn't supported for your system.

You are right: no matter what you do,that is the message that you will receive (at least until now). Hey Wyatt, do not forget to post a picture...

Field Note #218 @Anonymous 2008-02-01

Ok might be a while, i killed my install trying to do some hexing… gotta reinstall… ill post back soon… what do you think i should do? wait 5 hours for the internel HD or 1.5 hours for the external?

Field Note #219 @jwb-vt 2008-02-10
[cite] hackintosh4life:[cite] k3nny:@Authorhackintosh4life: Nice work. I see you used Slice's files.. i - too - have a 200m chipset and i wish you good luck. If you need someone to test something, ill do it. Yeah, thats the standard sentence .. dont ban me BTW: The screenshot shows 128mb for the chipset. Does it really use 128mb ?

as I said earlier i started out with slice's files but since they were hard for the noob's to use I took slices and added more so its more like mine now! hahaha... As for testing YES PELASE! I need all the testers with the 200m/x200/1100 - PS: anyone with dev id - 5975 i want testers for that! but i would need to you go on irc or msn, for testing.
and it use's 128 mb yes. im working on a way to use the full 256 mb (thats what mine is) but so far it just gives a white screen.

Wyatt M.

Hello!

I'm a total n00b to most of this and I'd like to help out. I've got an MSI S271 that I'd really like to get Leo on; It's got an ATI1150 (dev id 5975) How can I help?

I have time and hardware available to hack around with this...

JWB-VT

Field Note #220 @naquaada 2008-02-12

Hy folks, wasn't in for along time... which version is actual?

Zephyroth: Could you check the PS/2 kexts? ApplePS2Keyboard, ApplePS2Mouse, ApplePS2Trackpad directly in the Extensions folder are version 1.x and in ApplePS2Controller.kext/Plugins they are again, but in version 2.0. ApplePS2Keyboard is loaded twice in my system, maybe they interfear.
About Audio: Has anybody an idea why it's only 48kHz and not 44,1 what is mostly used? Why wasn't audio detected in System Profiler ever?

Sources & Contributor Provenance (48 credited usernames · Thread #45)
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@zephyrothPrimary Author452008-01-14 → 2008-02-12
@DoiXCore Contributor392008-01-14 → 2008-02-01
@PuttabongCore Contributor302008-01-23 → 2008-02-01
@naquaadaCore Contributor282008-01-20 → 2008-02-12
@AnonymousCore Contributor272008-01-30 → 2008-02-01
@roisoftCore Contributor192008-01-23 → 2008-02-01
@creative_Core Contributor142008-01-24 → 2008-01-31
@bonkeyCore Contributor122008-01-23 → 2008-01-27
@rockybt18Core Contributor92008-01-25 → 2008-02-01
@braindead803Core Contributor82008-01-23 → 2008-01-25
@frying_fishCore Contributor72008-01-31 → 2008-02-01
@prateeshCore Contributor62008-01-23 → 2008-01-25
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@Lion1985Core Contributor52008-01-24 → 2008-01-27
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