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turning icon at apple boot

i have succed to upgraded to 10.5.3 without a kernel panic.(cuz i have change for a new sata hd). but now at reboot i have the grey screen with apple + the turning icon.. I have let the computer boot. 1 hour after nothing had change (still…

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@BigBadBen Published 2008-07-07
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Leopard 10.5
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4,586 historical reads · 10 curated field notes (from 20 dispatches) · 2008-07-07 – 2008-07-11
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i have succed to upgraded to 10.5.3 without a kernel panic.(cuz i have change for a new sata hd).
but
now at reboot i have the grey screen with apple + the turning icon..
I have let the computer boot. 1 hour after nothing had change (still the grey apple with icon?).
any help?

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Author Updates & Technical Revisions

Follow-up dispatches by @BigBadBen

Author Update #1 @BigBadBen 2008-07-07

look at my image. its more simple that way. so i dont have to type

I really hope it helps..:)

Author Update #2 @BigBadBen 2008-07-08

i have 2 sata2 drive
1-xp
2-test for linux or hackintosh

Author Update #3 @BigBadBen 2008-07-08
[cite] cgsheen:How did you do the Update from 10.5.2 to 10.5.3? Did you use Zephyroth's ASU? These are kind of weird errors... The first has to do with the "enhanced USB" driver (USB 2.0). Then it looks like it finds your 2 SATA drives - and a few lines later, looses them. (After the "Firewire unable to determine" message, the…

everything was ok before(10.5.2).
i tried ti modify only with asu = kernel panic
so
i tried with kalyway combo update + 9.3 kernel and that worked, but at reboot i have this (neverending loop)

Author Update #4 @BigBadBen 2008-07-09
[cite] cgsheen:looks like you're re-installing 10.5.2 - I don't think you'll get this fixed otherwise...

no other way?
ok then so i guess ill be stuck at 10.5.2..

Author Update #5 @BigBadBen 2008-07-11

thx 4 help..but i reinstalled everything back to 10.5.2

ill try again to update

and ok...ill turn off 1394

Synthesized Community Field Notes

10 technical responses curated from 20 original dispatches

Field Note #1 @naquaada 2008-07-07

boot with -v option at the boot menu and tell us the last messages you get.

Field Note #2 @naquaada 2008-07-07

I already had this PCGenUSBEHCI error, but don't remember when... Which Leopard install DVD did you use?

Field Note #3 @bhast2 2008-07-08

looks like you have applenforceata installed twice on the disc or on the hd

Field Note #4 @nfoav8or 2008-07-08

AppleNForceATA loads every time a SATA port is found. a physical reset is done for every port. on my board it does this four times... this doesn't mean that AppleNForceATA is installed four times, just that I have four ports in use.

Field Note #5 @bhast2 2008-07-08

I know that

mine says it alot too

but when i was trying to get a distro to work with my comptuer i messed up and put two applenforce ata inside the iso before i burned it and i got the same error he is getting because in zeph first release the appleNforcATA is install inside another kext and i didn't know it

Field Note #6 @nfoav8or 2008-07-08

Well I didn't use Zeph's second release so I don't know if there are two AppleNForceATA kexts installed. To be fair though, when I was a noob and knew it only had to be placed in IOATAFamily, I placed it directly in the Extensions folder and the IOATAFamily>Contents>Plugins folder because I was receiving conflicting views on where it had to be placed... yet I've never had this error. All I'm saying is I don't know if it is because of that. Its worth looking into though. Where does PCGenUSBEHCI come in to play? and what does the rest of the line above the yellowed text say? "kmod_control/start... PCGenUSBEHCI; dest"... destination what?

Field Note #7 @cgsheen 2008-07-08

How did you do the Update from 10.5.2 to 10.5.3? Did you use Zephyroth's ASU?

These are kind of weird errors... The first has to do with the "enhanced USB" driver (USB 2.0). Then it looks like it finds your 2 SATA drives - and a few lines later, looses them. (After the "Firewire unable to determine" message, the bootloader is doing a LOT of stuff, mostly having to do with the "boot device" (startup hard drive). This is where the "Still waiting for boot device" error message generally occurs. Yours is either stalled there or caught in a neverending loop...) So, it looks like some of your .kexts really got screwed up if all this was working properly before the "update"...

Field Note #8 @cgsheen 2008-07-09

looks like you're re-installing 10.5.2 - I don't think you'll get this fixed otherwise...

Field Note #9 @nfoav8or 2008-07-10

I never updated to the 9.3 kernel for my last install. instead I just updated to the 9.4 kernel and ran 10.5.3 for a while until i updated to 10.5.4. Have you tried that?

Field Note #10 @nfoav8or 2008-07-10

do you actively use Firewire? booting with <b>-s</b> and <b>rm</b>'ing (removing) the Firewire kexts, then <b>reboot</b> to <b>-f</b> for a forced reloading of all kexts so it recognizes the missing ones... IMO if you don't use a kext, why let your system search... get rid of it (of course you should always make a backup so you can copy it back if you've made a mistake).

Corroborated & Participated: @Puttabong @nfoav8or
Sources & Contributor Provenance (6 credited usernames · Thread #1206)
UsernameDossier ContributionDispatchesActive Window
@BigBadBenPrimary Author82008-07-07 → 2008-07-11
@nfoav8orCore Contributor52008-07-08 → 2008-07-10
@naquaadaContributor22008-07-07
@bhast2Contributor22008-07-08
@cgsheenContributor22008-07-08 → 2008-07-09
@PuttabongContributor12008-07-10