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WARNING !: Time Machine Update updates mach_kernel also (Non-Vanilla Kernal can be affected)

What are we suppose to do in order to address this? Was anyone on the forums able to install the Time Machine update without a problem on their AMD machines?

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@WinLinMac01 Published 2008-03-21
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5,433 historical reads · 12 curated field notes (from 23 dispatches) · 2008-03-21
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What are we suppose to do in order to address this? Was anyone on the forums able to install the Time Machine update without a problem on their AMD machines?

Author Updates & Technical Revisions

Follow-up dispatches by @WinLinMac01

Author Update #1 @WinLinMac01 2008-03-21

darn, hope its not hard to come up with a amd patch for this unless someone can sacrifice their system for us. =)

[cite] Firewalk:mashed my system, computer restarts after darwin prompt, tried allsorts to no avail.
Author Update #2 @WinLinMac01 2008-03-21

whew…9.2.2 kernal?! You're right, we do need a kernel then. What to do? lol

[cite] R0GUE:The update requires a 9.2.2 kernel so we'll have to wait for ToH or whoever to work on supplying us a patched version to work with this update.
Author Update #3 @WinLinMac01 2008-03-21

I think you are talking about Safari and Security Update.

[cite] agrafuese:Yeah, I'm sure Netkas is back in his workshop as we speak. Strange though, I thought roisoft (or somebody) got this update working? I could be wrong, though.
Author Update #4 @WinLinMac01 2008-03-21

you never know, lol. Would rather wait for the next kernel. Its a mandate for all of us I see. I wonder what zeph is thinking.

[cite] agrafuese:actually, i just realized he was advising someone on how to avoid the kernel panics in that first thread about this update, but i think he was just talking hypothetically (i.e. "bullshitting") hahah j/k.
Author Update #5 @WinLinMac01 2008-03-21

care to give us a snapshot?

[cite] Ianxxx:I have the update working without the kernel.
Author Update #6 @WinLinMac01 2008-03-21

I would have the same thought. That could be related. I'd rather wait for the latest kernel to be patched then install. Then to be on the safe side, for those users that have AMD systems, someone can patch the update with marvin's utility (CPUID, etc), and upload it on RD and we all can download it worry-free. =)

[cite] agrafuese:eddie, do you remember the 2-minute long delay before desktop that some people were experiencing after the leo gfx update? it was caused because they were using the 9.1.0 kernel before a hacked 9.2.0 was available. maybe this is the same kind of thing (have to wait for 9.2.2 so that everything in your system is…
Author Update #7 @WinLinMac01 2008-03-21

roisoft, for me personally, I can wait until 9.2.2 kernel patched is released (hopefully, :|).

Author Update #8 @WinLinMac01 2008-03-21

well, the kernel will be properly modified at least, to be on the safe side.

[cite] roisoft:ok, but the "patches" will be the same + the mach_kernel
Author Update #9 @WinLinMac01 2008-03-21

yeah, same applies to me, I would wait as well. its not too long until the next ppf or kernel arrives I would say.

Netkas/ToH are probably working on it.

[cite] R0GUE:I'm quite happy to wait. Time Machine works perfectly right now, so I'm of the opinion that "if ain't broke…"

Synthesized Community Field Notes

12 technical responses curated from 23 original dispatches

Field Note #1 @Firewalk 2008-03-21

mashed my system, computer restarts after darwin prompt, tried allsorts to no avail.

Field Note #2 @R0GUE 2008-03-21

The update requires a 9.2.2 kernel so we'll have to wait for ToH or whoever to work on supplying us a patched version to work with this update.

Field Note #3 @R0GUE 2008-03-21

Yeah, us AMD people will need to wait a little while longer before we can join that party

Field Note #4 @agrafuese 2008-03-21

Yeah, I'm sure Netkas is back in his workshop as we speak. Strange though, I thought roisoft (or somebody) got this update working? I could be wrong, though.

Field Note #5 @agrafuese 2008-03-21

actually, i just realized he was advising someone on how to avoid the kernel panics in that first thread about this update, but i think he was just talking hypothetically (i.e. "bullshitting") hahah j/k.

Field Note #6 @agrafuese 2008-03-21

yes, haha. i am glad i didn't act immediately upon roisoft's "advice"

Field Note #7 @eddie11c 2008-03-21

Actually I have this working with netkas' 9.2.0 kernel, but for some reason I have yet to figure out there is a 30 second delay after my NTFS partition mounts at the end before desktop opens. This only happens with the modified kernel, my vanilla system runs perfect.

Field Note #8 @agrafuese 2008-03-21

eddie, do you remember the 2-minute long delay before desktop that some people were experiencing after the leo gfx update? it was caused because they were using the 9.1.0 kernel before a hacked 9.2.0 was available. maybe this is the same kind of thing (have to wait for 9.2.2 so that everything in your system is compatible with itself)...? just a thought.

Field Note #9 @dred 2008-03-21

Well just a fyi…I had the 2 min delay before the desktop would open and I was using the 9.2.0 kernel with EFI MBR.

Field Note #10 @roisoft 2008-03-21

go to this thread (osx.kb ot.de/comments.php?DiscussionID=799&page=1) and download the "patches" zip.

Field Note #11 @roisoft 2008-03-21

ok, but the "patches" will be the same + the mach_kernel

Field Note #12 @R0GUE 2008-03-21

I'm quite happy to wait. Time Machine works perfectly right now, so I'm of the opinion that "if ain't broke…"

Corroborated & Participated: @Ianxxx
Sources & Contributor Provenance (8 credited usernames · Thread #790)
UsernameDossier ContributionDispatchesActive Window
@WinLinMac01Primary Author102008-03-21
@agrafueseCore Contributor42008-03-21
@R0GUECore Contributor32008-03-21
@roisoftContributor22008-03-21
@FirewalkContributor12008-03-21
@eddie11cContributor12008-03-21
@dredContributor12008-03-21
@IanxxxContributor12008-03-21