Hi all, thanks for all the advice, im just gonna trash my microsoft k/b and get the mac one Puttabong suggested..

naquaada, with regards to front row, i see,yes your right the startup is much better in 1.3, in theory could i just replace leopard version with tiger or would i need to use my jas 10.4.8 install..thanks for the info on aliases, i am very new to the mac scene so i know very little bar getting it running on my system. i did run the deadmoo image in vmware a few years ago but it wasnt really useable on the system i had then, so i didnt get chance to learn much. i am slowly getting upto speed..

anyway thanks again all

Firewalk