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Old 10-25-2009, 01:09 AM
Kabyl Kabyl is offline
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Not really...

It looks like a "larger work" to me, it looks like they not only consolidated a few things, *maybe* made them easier to use, prettier to look at, etc. added some custom applications. Whatever BS they did, I'm pretty sure it's larger than what they started with.
I want to make sure that we're talking about the same thing which is the boot loader; osxlinuz from their ISO.

OK, so this boot loader is based on boot-132 + code from Chameleon like the GUI (and all the back end code).

Now I'm sure they did modify few things in the GUI code, they obviously used another theme (which we have a whole section in our forum on how to do that, you probably already have seen it), I'm also sure they didn't use some of the code we added to boot-132, even all this is still called a modification to the covered code. If it was a larger work, it wouldn't be based on boot-132 in the first place..

Anyway I'm not sure if you or others understand the technical details, I hope you do because it's important for you to understand how not releasing the changes is violating the APSL.

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http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/apsl.html
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The FSF now considers the APSL to be a free software license with two major practical problems, reminiscent of the NPL:

    * It is not a true copyleft, because it allows linking with other files which may be entirely proprietary.
    * It is incompatible with the GPL.
See section 2 of the NPL for the reference above

http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/netscape-npl.html
Well I guess that means you got a little of what I meant, they do have to release the covered code and the modifications they did to it and they do have to include a copy of the APSL, which they obviously didn't do.

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In any case, there is really no sense in us arguing about it. We're not lawyers ( well, at least I'm not ) and this isn't a court. I also don't enjoy pissing off people who contribute to the community.
It's probably just a waste of time that we're posting in this thread... but maybe not, in which case I hope few people benefit from this kind of discussions (I prefer to call it like that, instead of calling it arguing).

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The only point I was trying to make is that it cracks me up when people release their code to the public under a pretty liberal license then get pissy when someone does something they don't like with it.
Well, it's everyone's right to get upset when their work is used this way.

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Seems very childish to me. Either don't release the code at all, release it under a restrictive license or deal with it.
You know you don't really have much choice here, if you want to base your work on someone's or some company's work, there are rules here.

I knew after a while that I shouldn't expect things to be fair, so I chose to keep many things only for me and my friends, why should I care, right?

I knew what it meant when I released my code for Chameleon, I know others will use it in anyway they want, and I'm fine with that, would have released it otherwise

But I keep my right to be upset and my right to express it too, if people don't like to hear that, they can ignore me, and sorry for flooding their screens

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In the end it doesn't really matter because if someone really wants to steal your code they will. Not much can be done about it in some cases, even if you have a legal department at your disposal.
True, that's how things work.
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