I think, not sure, that my problem is that qe+ci is not supported therefor not on, so that is why these programs (ilife 08 and iwork 08, although I did get Iphoto to work after patching) dont work. They open but just kind of freeze and dont do anything. Garage band does not work at all, it just makes me restart. I did find that there is not really any support for my "crappy" graphics card. This sucks! If your ideas dont work, I think my only option is to buy a new compatible one. I will let you know what happens when I get off of work. Unfortunately it will be until later tonight, tomorrow the latest. Thanks again for the help.