Well friends, minor update: I figured the onboard geforce 7025 won't give Qe/Ce and the only other card lying around is an AGP Ati 9600xt256mb should I try that? Anyway the nforce NIC looks ok from OSx but can't communicate on my network, yet. Will try and post if succesful. Anybody got sound or 5.1 outa this rig? Thanks for the replies folks!