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Hi, I have made a post about this in the past but it was soon deleted from the thread I was posting in due to read-only circumstances. I am trying to install leopard and get the ball rolling but I am faced with the following problems. -…

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Hi, I have made a post about this in the past but it was soon deleted from the thread I was posting in due to read-only circumstances. I am trying to install leopard and get the ball rolling but I am faced with the following problems.
- PS/2 Keyboard and mouse not working
- SATA HDD not recognized
- Possible sound driver needed
Here are my system specs.

PC Wizard 2008 Version 1.82 --------------------------------------------- Owner: ----------- User: ----------- Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2 Report Date: Monday 07 January 2008 at 20:21 --------------------------------------------- <<< System Summary >>> > Mainboard : Unspecified SiS-755…

And for future reference, I do not have a Macintosh computer to work on so I can't accept any tutorials requiring a Macintosh computer to patch my Leopard installer. I have been working this for four days and I am very frustrated. I just want this up and running! Thanks for reading, and I appreciate any future help.

Author Updates & Technical Revisions

Follow-up dispatches by @lllsondowlll

Author Update #1 @lllsondowlll 2008-01-08

Thats just it though. I have found many tutorials on insanelymac that mention the fact you need a mac for use of terminal. In the how to section it also requires use of mac terminal with little explanation of what to do before then or how to get there or what to use. It just jumps right in to terminal commands. Also the PS/2 solution is for after you install leopard. I am also left without a solution to my SATA problem. Thanks for the reply.

Author Update #2 @lllsondowlll 2008-01-08

Thanks, I'm still open for solutions.

@ShadeZeRO

I have a windows PC and a ISO tool. However the ISO tool won't do me much good as only transmac can see the folder where the kext is located. I really don't need to remove any kext but when it comes to patching is it really as simple as injecting a extra file into a ISO? I'm a bit confused here. Also wouldn't that make it non-bootable? I really do need a step by step walkthrough now because I am pretty confused and I have hit a dead end. I was hoping this installation would be pretty straight forward. No I have not tried tubgirls release but isn't that Tiger? I really want leopard.

Author Update #3 @lllsondowlll 2008-01-08

Thank you I appreciate it. Guess I will continue tomorrow. I really want to keep this from going throughout the week if I can keep from it.

Author Update #4 @lllsondowlll 2008-01-09

Still here, Still open for suggestions and hopefully a solution...

Author Update #5 @lllsondowlll 2008-01-10

I don't mean to keep double posting but I have been working on this for a whole week. If there is no solution just tell me now because I really don't want to waste my time off on something I will never achieve this is urgent I really want to get this OS installed.

Author Update #6 @lllsondowlll 2008-01-11

Thank you so much! finally a straight answer. Let me know if it works, if it does then I will do it. But I prefer to wait for confirmation before I go wasting disks. Please let me know if it works and thanks again!

Synthesized Community Field Notes

75 technical responses curated from 105 original dispatches

Field Note #1 @jshanh 2008-01-08

There is a tutorial on the wiki about the PS2 and injecting kexts into the dvd -
check it out, I dont think you need a mac either to apply a new kext.
The PS2 issue is in the "Known Issues" section
and the kext injecting is in the "How to's" section

http://osx86.wikidot.com/start ↗

Field Note #2 @ShadeZeRO 2008-01-08

If you have access to a windows machine, you could get a program such as " magicISO " or any other program that allows you to edit an ISO file. This will help you clean out the DVD of un-needed kexts, and inject what else you need into it.

Though, this hasn't been tested.

Have you tried installing Tubgirls 10.4.10 release?

Field Note #3 @jshanh 2008-01-08

Hey, no problem, I understand the frustration, I actually gave up and spent the $50 bucks for a cheap PATA drive, but if thats not an option than keep researching, Ill do the same. Im still kinda new to this stuff too, so sorry I dont have any specific answers right now, it does look like you at least need a working mac drive to install the kexts in the dvd though, but keep trying, maybe theres a way to do it.

Field Note #4 @ShadeZeRO 2008-01-08

Well, like I said, I've never done it in windows. So I'm not too sure.

But what I do recommend, is install tubgirls release. Then from there, you should be able to patch up the DVD like jshanh pointed out. I've never run OSX on a SATA Drive though.
I'm going to take another quick look around the forum, I'm sure I've seen this problem a few times.

Field Note #5 @naquaada 2008-01-10

I now had a problem with an Asus A8N-E/FM, Socket 939, nForce 4. I had a new unformatted 500GB SATA HD conntected. During booting the Leopard DVD stopped at some kind of NTFS driver. Tried several times, wasn't working. I booted from Myzar 10.4.6, this works. I'm now formatting the HD.

Field Note #6 @crawle 2008-01-11

Maybe I can help you. I've got a similiar problem: My ATA-hdd can't be detected. So I can't install Leopard.
Look here: osx.kbt fi/comments.php?DiscussionID=24&page=1#Item_15
I'm trying to inject the kext with MagicISO. I know your problem with the bootability. You have to open MagicISO, open your image and save the Boot-Information (left to the "Bootable"-logo). Then you'll edit your image, load the Boot-File into it (there's a button next to the Bootable"-logo again) and save it (it could take for a while).
That's my way. In this moment, I'm burning the new iso, but I don't know if it'll work, because the new image is a little bit smaller than the old one. Try to do the same. Good luck!

Field Note #7 @crawle 2008-01-11

Oh, I'm sorry. I tried it, but the "Boot from CD" freezes. But I'm sure it's the right direction we have to follow. Leopard will be ours!

Field Note #8 @naquaada 2008-01-11

Test the following: Boot from the original disc, then press F8 to stop the boot process. Eject the original disc and change it which your patched one, then continue booting. But I'm not sure if MagicISO could save an ISO containing HFS+ data correctly. UltraISO 8.x only saves the Joliet part.

Field Note #9 @crawle 2008-01-11

And that's the problem! I think, there's no way to "just edit the image and save it again".
But I'll stay tuned and trying!

Field Note #10 @naquaada 2008-01-11

If you have already an OSx86 system running, maybe this could work: Insert the Install DVD and open Disk Utility. Select the DVD and create an .dmg image from it, but it must be readable/writeable. Now you should be able to insert new kexts, but the permissions must be set correctly. After this you can burn the DVD again, use a RW disc for this. But I don't know if it also restores the bootloader (this is no HFS+ format), in that case you have to use the switch-disc method.

Something different: Are you using a combines Windows-MacOS-HD? I can't recommend this. If you use Disk Utility one on a HD, Windows has problems to manage them. Partition Magic 8 marks the whole harddisk as 'DEFECTIVE', with a big yellow bar which you can't move, delete or anything. The only way to make this HD useable again is to delete the MBR - and in that case you will destroy any data on the HD. Better use a single HD for MacOS and Windows, ist also easier 'cause you can use the Windows XP/Vista bootselector to switch between the OS.

Field Note #11 @crawle 2008-01-11

I don't have a running OSx86-System. But maybe I can do this "live"?

I think my english ends here. I'll "whisper", so nobody will ask, what (f..fu...funny) laguage it is

[whisper]
Naquaada, ich hab nur eine Festplatte. Vielleicht ist auch genau das das Problem, wieso sie nicht angezeigt wird. Kann das sein? Ich glaube ich werde mir noch irgendwo eine zweite billig erstehen, dann warscheinlich am besten SATA oder? So kann ich doch ohne Problem dualboot'ig Mac OS installieren, meinst du nicht?

Okay, let's go back to the good, old english language.

Field Note #12 @naquaada 2008-01-11

I made an installation guide, look here:

osx.kbt fi/comments.php?DiscussionID=33&page=1

my mail address is also visible now.

Field Note #13 @roisoft 2008-01-12

@crawle

I have installed XP via VMware, I´ve used transmac to inject the appleviaata.kext (drag & drop) into the /system/library/extensions , and all seems to be perfect, in transmac you must show the hidden files...burn the ISO and boot with -v -f

Picture:

Field Note #14 @crawle 2008-01-12

Now, I'll burn the image and try to install Leopard. LEOPARD WILL BE MINE! Muahahahaha

Field Note #15 @naquaada 2008-01-12

Ahm, crawle, what for a type of Sempron do you have, K7 or K8? Has it the SSE2 command set?

Field Note #16 @naquaada 2008-01-12

Ah, my fault. The specs at the top of this thread are from lllsondowlll.

Field Note #17 @crawle 2008-01-12

I burned the image and booted. Yeah, kext was loaded but my hdd my hd wasn't shown anyway. But I got an idea. Maybe I have to pre-format the (until now unformatted) partition, to be detect?

Field Note #18 @crawle 2008-01-12

Still any ideas for my (not only mine) hd problem? The driver/kext isn't the problem. It's injected and loaded, but my hd doesn't want to appear. BTW: My iPod was detected!

Field Note #19 @roisoft 2008-01-12

you can try with tiger, and you see if the disk utility show your hard disk

Field Note #20 @crawle 2008-01-12

Reluctantly. Then I have to download (another) one. Can't there be any other cause for disappearing of my hard disk?

Field Note #21 @roisoft 2008-01-12

delete ioatafamily , appleviaata and replace with this file..

Field Note #22 @crawle 2008-01-12

So is it profitable to do this, roisoft? I don't want to waste my DVDs
I trust you, but how sure are you about this and "why"? I'm interested at this thing

Field Note #23 @roisoft 2008-01-12

You have a Via chipset and for this reason, i am trying some kext from tiger release…you can try it or not, it´s your choice.

Field Note #24 @naquaada 2008-01-12

Does a Tiger installation DVD detect your HD? If yes, format it from there and then try to install Leo.

Field Note #25 @crawle 2008-01-12

And it burns burns buuuurns ... with a kext of Tiger ...
(sorry for that spam ... I couldn't control myself :-} )

Field Note #26 @naquaada 2008-01-12

DL an tiger image from anywhere, tubgirl is not bad for AMD...

Field Note #27 @Puttabong 2008-01-12

@naquaada: he already injected the tiger kexts into his leopard dvd, and is going to test it again now.

Most of the time Tiger kexts are working, for example for my USB Controller.
Roisoft fixed USB issues with a Tiger IOUSBFamily Family kext as well.

Field Note #28 @crawle 2008-01-12

I have to disapoint you (and me). I tried following:
- boot the dvd with -f and -v flags ... kexts were loading, loading, loading ... and ZACK my PC rebooted
- boot the dvd without any flag ... installer were loaded ... but my hd still wasn't there.

@naquaada: I don't want to download Tiger, because now I know it's not the driver the problem.
@Puttabong: Any further suggestions? :-}

Thanks to you all,
Greetings

Field Note #29 @roisoft 2008-01-12

People with a Via chipset sometimes must put the sata HD on port 1 and edit the AppleVIAATA.kext with VEN/DEV ID

Field Note #30 @naquaada 2008-01-12

Do you have an USB HD or something else? Maybe this works.

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Field Note #31 @crawle 2008-01-12

I've got an iPod (and it appears) ... but my music hasn't got a place then :-}
My iPod appears, my DVD-Rom-Drive appears, but not my ATA(!)-HD.

@roisoft: I repeat: this isn't "my" thread. I have got a IDE/ATA-HD, connected by a IDE-Cable. But I've got an idea. Maybe I should change the IDE-Calbe-Ports from Rom and HD. Should I try this?

Field Note #32 @crawle 2008-01-12

No, they aren't. BTW: Is this possible?
What do you mean with Flat image?

Field Note #33 @Puttabong 2008-01-12

Is it correctly mounted as master, or did you set it to slave? What does your BIOS say when you are booting?

Field Note #34 @crawle 2008-01-12

Ehm, I don't know. I think, it says something like slave. But I don't know. It disappears so quickly

Field Note #35 @roisoft 2008-01-12

Set the hd to Master and Dvd to slave not cable select ok? both in the same IDE port

Field Note #36 @Puttabong 2008-01-12

Have a look at your HDD, get it out of your case, and check the Jumpers.
If it's set to slave, switch them to master and then try again.

Field Note #37 @Puttabong 2008-01-12

You find a description for the correct slots on the top of the HDD.

Field Note #38 @crawle 2008-01-12

Oh great, thanks Puttabong. So I'll plug them both in one port and set the hd to master, the rom to slave. And then I'll try again.
See you in a few minutes ...

Field Note #39 @naquaada 2008-01-12

A friend always set the 40GB-limit-jumper insted of the slave jumper as he wanted to set it to master

Field Note #40 @crawle 2008-01-12

I set the jumper as the intructions on the hd. My problem: My HD is now on Master, but on the Rom there was a jumper, too, without any instructions. I removed the jumper and now my Rom can't be detect (windos doesn't start to ... when windows is loading the crcdisk-driver, it freezes).
So where should be the jumper on the Rom plugged in?

Field Note #41 @naquaada 2008-01-12

The most dvd-roms are jumpered Left-Cable Select, Middle-Slave, Right-Master. From the back view, of course.

Field Note #42 @crawle 2008-01-12

Alright thanks, so the jumper have to be plugged in the middle pin-section. BTW: What is "Cable select?"

Field Note #43 @roisoft 2008-01-12

A poor shit option, the best way for problems in sytems with multiHD-DVD

Field Note #44 @crawle 2008-01-12

Alright thanks
I'm back at MY pc. So should I try now with the tiger-kext-modified version, the viaata-kext version or the original version?

Field Note #45 @crawle 2008-01-12

roisoft, naquaada, I LOVE YOU! (not really, but nearly)
My PC is in this moment installing Leopard. I tried it at first with the Leopard DVD with VIAATA-kext, 'cause I couldn't find the "original". I booted without any flags and he detected my hd. This day is like christmas - nearly better.

Stay tuned. I'll post about my success, when the installation is complete!

Field Note #46 @roisoft 2008-01-12

I am happy for you crawle, welcome to the jungle!

Field Note #47 @crawle 2008-01-12

Ok guys. The Installation was successful. But when I boot, and it want to boot from the hd, it says "HFs+ partition error".
What does that mean?

Field Note #48 @Puttabong 2008-01-13

// rdiskXsX: you have to know the proper partition names and replace them with X.
In my case, it would rdisk1s1, first HDD, and first partition, on which leopard has been installed, which needs to be made bootable //

1 -> Launch DVD
2 -> At boot prompt, type -s (single user mode)
3 -> Type:

fdisk -e /dev/rdisk0
update
f 1
w (y)
q

4 ->
cd /usr/standalone/i386
./startupfiletool -v /dev/rdis0sX ./boot (X is your partition)

5 ->
mount -uw /
mount -t hfs /dev/disk0sX /Volumes

6 ->
bless -device /dev/disk0sX -setBoot -verbose

7 -> reboot

Field Note #49 @roisoft 2008-01-13

after that, you will fix the windows boot

boot over windows dvd

open command prompt and type

diskpart

select disk 0

list partition

select partition X (X=windows partition)

active

exit

bootrec /RebuildBCD

Add installation to boot list? (yes)

diskpart

select partition Y (Y=leopard partition)

active

exit

Field Note #50 @naquaada 2008-01-13

hm, I used always fdisk -e /dev/disk1. I have two HDs in my system, the MacOS boot HD is Primary Master. The other one is a Mac Data HD, there's no Windoze.

Field Note #51 @roisoft 2008-01-13

I think that crawle wants a dual boot Win/Leo in the same hd

Field Note #52 @crawle 2008-01-13

Yes, I want. I've done, what Puttabong wrote and now at boot it says something like: windows is broken, launch windows-dvd ...
But Leopard doesn't boot. What shall I do?

Field Note #53 @crawle 2008-01-13

Oh, I haven't seen roisofts instructions.
... will be in second

Field Note #54 @crawle 2008-01-13

Great. Now Leopard Bootmanager starts. I typed nothing ... -> kernel panic, I typed cpus=1 ... -> freezes after loading kexts, I typed -x ... -> loading kexts, after that reboot
!?

Field Note #55 @Puttabong 2008-01-13

What does the Kernel Panic tell us? Make a Picture of your Screen, please.

Field Note #56 @naquaada 2008-01-13

GeForce kexts again? How about booting with or without -legacy? tried platform=ACPI or platform=x86pc? You can also combine the options.

Field Note #57 @roisoft 2008-01-13

boot with -s

and type

mount -uw /

rm -r /system/library/extensions/Nvdaresman.kext

Field Note #58 @crawle 2008-01-13

Ok, the screen when I boot without any flag and with cpus=1

Field Note #59 @Puttabong 2008-01-13

No, it seems to be a different problem other than Nvidia...

Panic (cpu 0 caller 0x0036DAC7):"Process 1 exec of /sbin/launchd failed, errno 88\n"@/volumes/disk1s2/leo_xnu-1228/bsd/kern/kern_exec.c:2884

Field Note #60 @crawle 2008-01-13

I don't have a SATA-Drive. I have a ATA/IDE-Drive. ...

Field Note #61 @crawle 2008-01-13

When I start in -s mode, the screen freezes (e.g. the dvd-rom can't be opened).

Field Note #62 @crawle 2008-01-13

what's up?
@Puttabong: So what should I do? Load another kext or something else?

Field Note #63 @roisoft 2008-01-13

No solutions at the moment, i´m afraid that you must wait to rev 2

if I were you I would try to install tiger , Jas or Uphuck release and install leo from tiger

Field Note #64 @crawle 2008-01-13

I just tried to deactivate SATA in the Bios and now I don't get a kernel panic (either not when boot with -x) but it freezes (see picture above).
Maybe someone of you get an idea by this ...

Field Note #65 @roisoft 2008-01-13

A question, How are the options of your Bios SATA devices, can you set your SATA to IDE mode?

Field Note #66 @crawle 2008-01-13

Yes I can. And I can deactivate SATA completely (I did).
Should I try with SATA/IDE-Mode?

Field Note #67 @crawle 2008-01-13

Here, I tried to, but no success. Here's a fresher picture.

Field Note #68 @crawle 2008-01-13

Ok, one little, little question: Until Rev 2 releases, I want to install Tiger, because it's compatibler and safer. I've got the Mac OS X 10.4.8 image by JaS. Should I just reformat my Leopard partition (to HFS+ again) and install Tiger? What's about a boot manager then? Thanks, for this non-zeph-question

Field Note #69 @roisoft 2008-01-13

Erase the leo partition and install tiger, maybe you will fix the bootloader after the install ok? but now that´s easy for you crawle..

Field Note #70 @crawle 2008-01-14

Alright guys, I installed it successful (what a wondeful OS) ...
The first time, I booted without any flag and the configurator started.

Then I had to restart (loading, loading ...).

The second time, I booted without any flag and the apple screen appeared a second and the pc rebooted (the third time, too).
I started with -x mode (alright) and with -f mode (alright, too), but two things doesn't want to run:
- my internet connection doesn't work
- my second monitor (20" plugged in about a DVI) doesn't want to work (my 19" plugged in about VGA works) (at startup, the white screen and the apple logo appears on both screens)
I think that's it. All I tested was nearly fully working.

Field Note #71 @crawle 2008-01-14

I know, I'm in the wrong forum for this, but I would like to know, if it's normal with my flag-problem (see post above) and where I can find kexts?

Field Note #72 @crawle 2008-01-14

Mh, it would be a pleasure, if you can help me just finding kexts. Where can I get a kext-list or something else? When I search for something like "via ethernet kext" I get my insanelymac-thread, but they don't answer to my thread (since yesterday). , I know you are geeks of this genre...

Field Note #74 @roisoft 2008-01-14

Try with this kext, media fire.com/?binnxlo3wn8

maybe you must add the ethernet ID

Field Note #75 @crawle 2008-01-15

I got it working, thanks.
But something else: my second monitor (DVI) doesn't work (only on startup ... white screen with apple logo), should I install the nVidia package? I've got 10.4.8...

Corroborated & Participated: @crawle @Puttabong @roisoft @naquaada
Sources & Contributor Provenance (7 credited usernames · Thread #19)
UsernameDossier ContributionDispatchesActive Window
@crawleCore Contributor492008-01-11 → 2008-01-15
@roisoftCore Contributor222008-01-12 → 2008-01-14
@naquaadaCore Contributor152008-01-10 → 2008-01-13
@PuttabongCore Contributor82008-01-12 → 2008-01-13
@lllsondowlllPrimary Author72008-01-08 → 2008-01-11
@jshanhContributor22008-01-08
@ShadeZeROContributor22008-01-08

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