Let me just say .... WOW!!! That is a lot of VERY useful information, just the kind of thing that I have been looking for. Over the last month or two, all I would get at other forums is just a link to another post that presumablly has the answers that I am looking for. But I would have to read the WHOLE thread to even see if in fact it had it. Don get me wrong, links to other posts are great because they let me in on some info that I didn't know before or other cool ideas...but this is great.

So I went a head and reinstalled iDeneb excluding the ATI drivers. This is what I installed : AMD patch, apple SMBIOS - 27 - 1066, skge marvel LAN, and some apps. I creent dont have viedo, audio, or chipset kext installed. After the install, I input -v at the darwin prompt to see what would happen. it ran through it's normal stuff. Oh, by the way when I say normal stuff, I am only assuming that it is normal. There has always, no matter what install I do, been some weird messages that keep repeating themselves for a while then it continues. I will have to reboot to write down what it says so that I can post it. Ayway, after the install, once everything was finished, running in the darwin prompt, when the login should have come up, this time in stead of a blueish screen, a very wierd glitchy screen came up. It was a dark blue color while all the other times it was the normal mac light blue, also this time it had like tons of bubbles on it. Basically it was a graphics glitch of some sorts. Then when I moved my mouse, the screen just wigged out on me. I am going to try a couple things and then try your idea nfoav8or. Thanks again guys for your help. This has been some of the best input that I have recieved since I started this project. Will report back soon.