Some progress:

Computer 1: nothing, tried iDeneb again, still waiting for root device, what should i do ?

Computer 2 : Found an old copy of Kalaway 10.5.2 and it worked !
took me a pretty long while getting the ethernet working and graphics to work properly but its looking good i software updated everything (itunes, quicktime, iphoto) but the os to 10.5.8, should i or should i not ? what are the risks .

Computer 3: nothing

yes i did try kalaway on comp 1 and 3, nothing