yep !!!


http://www.hack-my-mac.fr/index.php/...-l2-sur-pc-amd


:)

….. Also, ich habe mir die beiden Patch-Dateien von Dimitrik und R:A:W:X86 intensiver miteinander verglichen und festgestellt, dass sie zwar den AMD Prozessor mit aufführen aber nicht explizit den K10, kannst du mir zustimmen GILS ?.


Mir ist bewusst das der Phenom II nicht SSSE3 tauglich ist.


Ich habe eine AMD Phenom II Binär-Datei. Und stelle mir vor, entweder einen Emulator der auf die Binär-Datei zugreift um ein SSSE3 zu emulieren oder eventuell die Binär Datei in den modifizierten Kernel oder in die Patch-Datei einzuprogrammieren.


Eine Patch-Datei die explizit den K10 anspricht habe ich bereits, diese Patch-Datei habe ich nicht selber geschrieben. Wenn ich mit dieser Patch-Datei boote, dann bleibt das System auf der Zeile DSMOS stehen. Ich habe alles ausprobiert, leider bisher ohne Erfolg. Wie gesagt ich bin kein Programmierer, ich nehme an, dass die Patch-Datei einen sehr großen Einfluss auf den modifizierten Kernel hat. Ich gehe davon aus, dass wenn man die Informationen, die benötigt werden in den modifizierten Kernel fehlen dann kann das System auch nicht booten.

Im Klartext, jemand hat eine Patch-Datei erstellt, die von der Idee sehr gut ist aber die mach_Kernel nicht darauf angepasst.

Es wäre sehr gut wenn Dimitrik und R:A:W:X86 auch dazu stellung nehmen könnten

Salut , frisco2

là , où je ne comprends pas ,on parle de jeux d'instructions SSSE3 que n'a pas la serie atlon/phenom k10 , donc pas capable 64 bit , alors que le FX qui est capable 64 bit n'est pas lui non plus SSSE3 !!??

AMD FX-8120 - FD8120FRW8KGU

Fréquence :
3.1 GHz

Jeux d'instructions supportés :




MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4a, SSE4, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, Enhanced 3Dnow!


Autres technologies supportées :
AES - AVX



j'avoue que j'en perds mon latin !!!
faisons nous bonne route ?? le problème n'est-il pas ailleur ??
Moi non plus , je ne comprends rien dans la programmation d'un kernel . Je bricoles boucoup . !!!

I'm not sure if this is against the rules or not. But does anyone know of a VM in existence that has a working boot up for AMD?

I don't currently have the time to spend trying different things out. All I want it to do is run xcode to develop on.

OSX 10.7 fonctionne sur vtbox (win) proc AMD .


http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/55...0627142057.png


http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/21...0627142130.png


http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/59...0627144311.png

There is no working SSSE3 Emulator until now.
So there is no way to run 64 bit Kernelmode with a K10 CPU!!

By the way frisco2 and gils please write english, because all people should understand whats written in this thread.

I am 100% sure it is possible



AAAAnd wastez...is it possible to boot 64 bit if you have SSE3 supported but you dont have bulldozer(AMD FX) CPU?

It is about SSSE3 not SSE3 support.
Only the following CPU are capable (SSSE3 + 64-Bit extensions):

• Lion Vanilla-Kernel compatible Intel
• AMD Bulldozer
• AMD Bobcat (mobile APUs / embedded CPUs, most likely graphics won't work)
• VIA Nano (atm not supported in the Kernel, but AnV has written methods for these, that could be added. I haven't considered this necessary - Lion on such feeble CPU would be no fun.)

Hello ,

I confess I do not understand anything, the FX is not based on data SSSE3 manufacturer AMD, and the FX work in 64 bit mode? Thank you explain to me please?


AMD FX-8120 - FD8120FRW8KGU

Fréquence :
3.1 GHz

Jeux d'instructions supportés :

MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4a, SSE4, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, Enhanced 3Dnow!

Autres technologies supportées :
AES - AVX

Aha... but couldnt it be patched??? My athlon is getting to the point where OS X is waiting for root device... or at least cannot we boot at least in user 64 bit mode???(the fake one)??? cause my audio kexts work only in 64 bit and i canthave stable lion W/O them


And guys...just seeking an advice...should i go for this CPU http://shop.amd.com/us/All/Detail/Pr...RGUBOX#Details ??? Or should I spend 50 more euros and buy new mobo and inteli 3/5?

dunno where your information comes from, but the FX has SSSE3 support:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...icroprocessors

Where there's a will there's a way.
But that way will be a rocky road & I currenlty see noone to walk it.

To speak for myself I don't have any skills to write some simd emulation.

And even if there would be some other workaround for this - I don't have a platform to do testing on this.
I was playing with the thought of getting some Sempron 14* to try some stuff, but I don't want to waste 30 bucks on something with a bare possibility to work in the end...

64-Bit only Kernel Extensions require the X86_64 Kernel.
Having i386 Kernel with 64-Bit support enabled, won't work for this.

Currently I don't even have this working on the FX - all patched Kernel builds are i386 only.

Seriously?
If you could / would effort this, I'd do.

My main Workstation is equipt with an Intel Xeon E-1220 - so I can compare directly & the OS X work expierence is much better.

Altough the AMD-OSx86 thing is still fun to me.^^ :D

@R:A:W:X86

hello,

ok, this info was not clear in my research, the FX is 3SE.
Will we one day run correctly the K10 as a 64-bit? Or will you join the circle of it missing processors like the IBM PPC?
It is true that with a E1220 processur Untel, care about them do not exist. Myself being equipped with a E1230, the least we can say this is not history.
thank you anyway for your work and your patient even if it is a game for you.

@ gils
If nobody will write a SSSE3 Emulator we will get stuck at this point and there will no way to run it in 64 bit kernelmode ever.
My mind is that nobody will do this, cause there are alternatives which are working.

@ xmaniak100
I would spend the money in an Intel System cause a Intel will work with the vanilla kernel. You don´t have to patch your binaries and as long as apple will take intel cpus the system will be compatible.

Hey Guys,

I keep on getting this:

I had snow leopard 10.6.8 working fine under ubuntu 11.10 but I've upgraded to 12.04 and now I'm getting this message. I've patched it to allow Apple machine but what else do I need to do? I can't recall what else.

This is the same for 10.7.4 vm that I grab from the net.

With virtualbox I just get a kernel panic.

Thanks

Hi. I registered on this forum just to reply on this topic. :)

I've got Lion 10.7.2 running on AMD. 32-bit only though...
I installed it to another partition from my Snow Leopard, replaced the kernel, added kexts and replaced the Finder.app with the one from DP2.

My boot flags: -legacy arch=i386 npci=0x3000
I use Bronzovka's kernel V4. The system hasn't crashed even single time in few days.
Only problem I've found is with Logic Pro 9, it crashes for some unknown reason...

But now I'm interested in 64-bit. I have Phenom II 965. I've read few pages of this topic and it seems to be pretty damn hard to get the kernel running in 64. So, what blocks the 64 bit? Is the kernel compiled only for 32/i386?

hello,

last modified kernel based Dimitrik reviewed by R:A:W:X86 runs only on 64 bit FX buldo.

Your processor is not bulldozer, there is no kernel with 64bit support for previous AMD bulldozer CPU (i.e. athlon, phenom..)

Your CPU is the problem why 64 bit will not work.
To run 64 bit kernel your CPU has to support SSSE3 instructions, and yours doesn´t support that.
So if you like to run 64 bit (userland, not kernelmode) you have to stay on Snow Leopard.

Don´t know it for sure (because i don´t know the error log), but much apple software need SSSE3 instructions too (like Final Cut X).
And i could imagine thats the same for logic but to be sure you have to post the log.

Yea, I know that. I was just wondering if someone could write SSSE3 emulator?

I'm also interested in kernel developing, just grabbed XCode 4.2 on my SL and compiled Lion XNU with AMD patches...
Still no boot, but its fun to take a look at the source of the kernel. :p


EDIT: Seems like the SSSE3 instructions are all in the commpage, which is written in Assembly...
Am I right, someone who actually knows something, could you confirm this?

Hi Jungs,
einen Emulator finde ich Prima !!!
Ich habe im Internet gesucht und bin auf ein paar ältere Webseiten (osx86.co › InfiniteMac und insaneleymac) aufmerksam geworden. Es ging um die ersten SSE Emulationen für 10.4 daraufhin habe ich das Thema weiter verfolgt und habe diese Seiten gefunden
http://developer.amd.com/archive/cpu...s/default.aspx und http://sseplus.sourceforge.net/ vielleicht kann R:A:W:X86 oder bronzovka es irgendwie Sinnvoll nutzen, eventuell um einen geeigneten AMD Kernel Patch zu realisieren?

Auf der Seite ist unter download ein Tool , das die Daten der CPU einliest, es wird auch von einem SSEPlus Emulator geschrieben?, leider habe ich davon null Ahnung, bitte nicht böse auf mich sein.

Desweiteren habe ich hier noch ein paar AMD Phenom II Binäar-Dateien siehe Link

http://www.amd64.org/index.php?id=50...-01-17.tar.asc


Und hier noch die xnu-1699.26.8.tar.gz hier


Für 10.4. war es doch Möglich einen SSE3 emulator zu realisieren warum nicht jetzt für LION einen SSSE3 Emulator?

Was ist mit "SSE-Plus" ? das ist doch in der Lage einen SSSE3 zu emulieren?
Und was ist mit EM64T???????

Kann Jemand meine Fragen beantworten?

Hi all,

I've been running 10.7.4 on my AMD system for a while now - 32 bit of course, but it's nice and stable. I have one issue that is killing me, I can't get Adobe Flash to work... yep, all installed and I've tried with different browsers but all I get is audio and a white or black screen, no video.

Any ideas?

try to install firefox and disable the hardware acceleration from adobe.
to do this just click right inside a flash video, select settings and uncheck "enable hardware acceleration" this should change the setting over all browsers.

this helped me to get flash working! report back please.

Thanks for the reply mate. Problem is that when I right click Settings... nothing happens, no settings box pops up! Global Settings... works, but not Settings...
Doesn't matter what browser I use, I get the same result. Nothing pops up.

Any other ideas?

i had same problem with my ATI 4850 but solved with change kext for it , so change ur video card kexts ;)

Should I upgrade to Bulldozer to get a better user experience?
 

Hello, everybody!

First of all, thanks to RAW x86 for his great job. Get the (still) latest osx on a (relativelly) cheap AMD machine is the pinnacle of hackintoshing.

I have lion 10.7.2 running 32-bit on an Athlon II x2 250 with bronzovka v4 kernel. It's nice and stable, just like someone else told. The main issues are that i had to swap the original finder with DP2 32-bit finder, and that even this solution has its bugs (doesn't copy/cut/paste/erase) so i had to install Path Finder.

I tried the update to 10.7.4 with both bronzovka v6 and RAW x86 latest kernels. With bronzovka's i couldn't even boot. With RAW's, as i have a non-Bulldozer CPU, i got 32-bit with that described permission bug. The result was somewhat worse than what i already got with 10.7.2, because the finder restrictions now affected Path Finder, installers and disk utility too, so i had to change back to 10.7.2.

But i'm AMD-stubborn, and i'm willing to effort an upgrade to a Bulldozer/Piledriver CPU to enjoy Lion in full 64-bit experience, besides it's a great CPU. Therefore i need to get the answers to some questions before making this upgrade:

1) The original lion finder will work out of the box, since the system will run at 64-bit? It's very annoying to resource to DP and path finders to get the work done;

2) 64-bit-only kexts and apps will work? The answer to this question may look obvious, but nothing in OsX86 is really the way it seems;

3) 32-bit apps will continue to work in 64-bit mode?

4) The core services and apps will stop being impossible to launch after x minutes from reboot? Another problematic point in lion with AMD;

5) The kernel will possibly work in a newer Piledriver CPU, since it's basically an enhanced Buldozer?

Thanks in advance for the answers!

Hey guys,

I'm trying to install xcode.4.3.3 for lion and as you can see, it's a no go.

http://i.imgur.com/fbabD.png

I am using the V4 kernel found here:

and this kernel as well:

Has anyone installed xcode 4.3.3 and can offer any assistance?

Thanks!

Xcode is a 64bit app :( so It can't be run on our 32bit only Lion. You can install Xcode 4.2 but you will have to change the system version before installing by editing a file. You will have to do that every time you run Xcode and or you want to restart. Basically you have to spoof that your OS X is 10.6 to run Xcode 4.2 on Lion. and don't forget to change it back to default when you would like to restart else OS X won't boot.

Umm, sounds good. Can you recommend one? I've got a Gigabyte ATI 6850 (GV-R685OC-1GD)

Here's my current extract from System Information:

ATI Radeon HD 6xxx:

Chipset Model: ATI Radeon HD 6xxx
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 1024 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x6739
Revision ID: 0x0000

Thanks, but not really the answer im looking for. I'd rather just go out and buy an intel mobo + cpu than mess around like this.

Havent a few people got Lion to run in 64bit mode?

:)


hello,

like you, I'm Forcia AMD but you have to face the fact that Intel has chosen to make more sense.
The finding of FX is overwhelming, less effective than K10 x6, I fear that the arrival of the new FX 83xx is still worse than the first of the series! will be reduced to increase speed and to consumption at the same time for poor performance.

The same K10 x2/4/6 offered good performance on OS X while not working at all on certain application. AMD stock on OS X is very mixed, given the price / performance.

i3 2100 /100 € /65 w = x4 955/100 € /95/125 w> FX 4100/100 €/95/118 w!

E31230 /80 w/ 200 € >> 20 % !! FX 8150/125 w / 190 €

For you to see.

It´s only possible if your CPU does support SSSE3. (Bulldozer for example)
I don´t know you CPU so i can´t tell you if your cpu will be able to do but if it´s not a relative new cpu it will not support it.

Thanks for replying:

I have this: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor × 6

This CPU doesn´t support SSSE3, so there is no chance to run it in 64 bit kernelmode in the moment.

Thanks for the clarification. I'll be buying an intel set-up then!

I think that bug should be fixed with latest build - although some further testing is needed.

My own experience is that my Bulldozer Hackintosh is finally running very stable & I am able to use all my software without any limitations. :)

People with other demands (software I am not using etc) may have a differing expierence - dunno...

Me too. :D
Anyway Intel is the better way to go, if you consider using OS X as your main operating system.

For example keep in your mind, that we may never be able to run Mountain Lion on our AMD machines (this ain't that unlikely for some reasons), any system update can cause problems i.e. depencies that cannot be solved until the source code for a new Kernel version is released (often some week after the release of the corresponding system update) etc.

Of course if your mainboard would support a Bulldozer upgrade (bios update etc) & you want to use Lion, this could be a "cheap at purchase" alternative.

Yes. 64-Bit software works.

No 64-Bit kexts.
The Kernel is i386 only. Kernel Extensions made for X86_64 Kernel only will not work.

Yes but not 100% ootb.
Running 32-Bit software requires the SYSENTER opcode, which is not avaible on AMD CPUs in 64-Bit enabled system mode.
Sysenter traps have to be patched in dyld & libsystem_kernel.dylib for 32-Bit Apps to work in compatibility mode.

Those problems are -legacy mode only.

Most likely yes - of course: no warranty for anything related to those Kernel. ;)

what is the function of -legacy ? and how can I drop it ?

Somehow I lost my previous account. Asked to reset my password but the new one never comes. Anyway, I'm back. Thank you again, RAW X86: your new updated kernel did the trick. Now i'm running 10.7.4 and the permissions bug is gone for good.

Gils, i'm an AMD stubborn, and i'm not exagerating: think i'll rather buy a piledriver set than change to intel; the price/performance ratio still pends to AMD side and i still have faith that the newer AMD CPUs can make through this tribulated transition to 64-bit kernel and extensions. As a matter of fact, i can tell i totally agree with you as far as OsX86 user experience is concerned: i have a hackintoshed atomN450 netbook, and it causes me far less trouble, runs 64-bit kernels and extensions and performs better than under windows7, even without current native suport for this CPU.

Uchihaxyz: Answering directly to your question, -legacy is the boot flag that forces your system boot 32-bit. I think RAW meant 32-bit mode when he said legacy mode. You can't "drop it" on an AMD system, unless you have a ssse3-enabled CPU (buldozer family). A couple of days ago, before the answer of RAW and his upload of his uptaded kernel, i had updated again to 10.7.4. The permissions bug discussed was there and didn't go away, but i tried a new approach to the core apps crashing issue: installed all i need when was still running 10.7.2/bronzovka's V4, and didn't change the original finder, relying on path finder (paid program, 30day trial) to do the finder thing. Worked surprisingly, I don't know how or why, and i could start and quit core service apps anytime I wanted to. But, as I needed airdrop to work, I called dp2 finder back and the crash issue returned. Besides this, I updated the kernel to the latest RAW's. Maybe the return of the crash bug is related to former, to the latter or to none (or both) of them. Who knows? But worth a try, if you have patience and a good backup for your data.

Asking to RAW X86 again: is it possible to enable iCloud/Facetime with your kernel? Appstore and iTunes store work like a charm with the en0/built-in ethernet Yes/latest chameleon/smbios patch, but iCloud/Facetime refuse to accept me to log in. In fact, i have this problem with my atom netbook too. Do iCloud/Facetime work only with vanilla kernel, perhaps?

Is anyone working on SSSE3?

Anyone recommend an alternative ATI kext?

Yea. I am also looking forward to these.
The so far leaked information on Vishera sounds very promissing.

Specialy thosen 83*0 with 95W TDP / 16MB cache could earn AMD a good market position one more time, if sold for a reasonable price. :cool:

Actualy iCloud doesn't work on my Xeon Workstation too.
Might be fixable, but I haven't ever cared any further about these programs, as I am not interested in using them anyway...

Does not look like if there is someone, with the necessary skills, who's currently into this..

Higly recommended not to use any extra kext.
The HD6850 should work ootb. :)

Yep, it does work beautifully - however Adobe Flash video's do not play and I cannot figure out why!?

Burger, the menu bar is translucent?

Hmmm..... I Found More Info On How XPCHelper Works Here:
https://developer.apple.com/library/...echnology.html

Interesting It Tells What Is Involved in XPCHelper
and Maybe We Can Look Into it To Try and Patch Stuff?

Great, justin!

However, it would be palliative, yet a very useful one, to concentrate efforts at tweaking the i386 patched lion kernel. Okay, let's work on it, like RAW X86 worked on adding support on it for 64-bit apps on ssse3-enabled Bulldozer CPUS at least, and it was great.

But i think it's time to move on and face the true endeavor: the 64-bit legacy kernel, be it for Lion, be it for the new OsX Mountain Lion. We're already at the fringe of Mountain Lion era and, without a x64_86 legacy kernel, we AMD hackintoshers won't make it!

Yep, and I get the "ripples" when adding widgets to the dashboard.

So you have QE/CI, and the problem is rather software than hardware-related...

Because you need to install Flash manually on Lion. ;)


(I personally hope we could get rid of Flash completely soon - It's an old piece of burden, hope HTML5 will soon take over)

Yes, I've done that too but no joy. Maybe I'm up for a re-install...

I'd like to try to turn off the hardware acceleration, but I can't even get the options window up to be able to set it. Does anyone know where this flag is set, so that I can edit manually?

try to install firefox and change the settings there. if u can change it in firefox it will change it over all browsers. this worked for me

Thanks for the ideas guys - yep, tried this too. The problem is that no matter what browser I use, when I right click on the Adobe Flash and choose "Settings" nothing happens. No box appears.