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Voyn1x 06-23-2008 06:50 PM

Right, this morning(7hrs ago) I disabled the spread spectrum in my bios and booted with the -legacy flag.

To test I opened Firefox, every CS3 application and started playing a 4.3gb wmv-hd file.

I've just got home and all apps had quit on me. I had to logout and back in again because I was getting the -10810 error. Oh well back to the drawing board....

Days logs are below:

Code:

23/06/2008 10:15:46 com.apple.launchd[147] ([0x0-0x19019].org.mozilla.firefox[208]) Exited with exit code: 3
23/06/2008 10:17:42 com.apple.launchd[147] ([0x0-0x1b01b].com.adobe.illustrator[212]) Exited abnormally: Floating point exception
23/06/2008 10:17:51 com.apple.launchd[147] (com.apple.ReportCrash[995]) Exited abnormally: Floating point exception
23/06/2008 10:17:56 com.apple.launchd[147] ([0x0-0x24024].com.apple.quicktimeplayer[399]) Exited abnormally: Floating point exception
23/06/2008 10:19:01 com.apple.launchd[147] ([0x0-0x1d01d].com.adobe.InDesign[214]) Exited: Terminated
23/06/2008 10:19:30 com.apple.launchd[147] ([0x0-0x1a01a].com.adobe.dreamweaver-9.0[211]) Exited: Terminated
23/06/2008 10:20:09 com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.UserNotificationCenter[999]) Exited abnormally: Floating point exception
23/06/2008 10:25:31 Adobe Crash Reporter[1057] Process Id: 
23/06/2008 10:25:31 Adobe Crash Reporter[1057] 213
23/06/2008 10:25:31 [0x0-0x1c01c].com.adobe.Photoshop[213] 2008-06-23 10:25:31.523 Adobe Crash Reporter[1057:10b] Process Id: 
23/06/2008 10:25:31 [0x0-0x1c01c].com.adobe.Photoshop[213] 2008-06-23 10:25:31.525 Adobe Crash Reporter[1057:10b] 213
23/06/2008 10:25:41 com.apple.launchd[147] ([0x0-0x1c01c].com.adobe.Photoshop[213]) Exited abnormally: Bus error
23/06/2008 10:26:27 com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.UserNotificationCenter[1060]) Exited abnormally: Floating point exception
23/06/2008 10:33:28 com.apple.launchd[147] ([0x0-0xa00a].com.apple.systemuiserver[162]) Exited abnormally: Floating point exception
23/06/2008 10:46:33 com.apple.launchd[147] ([0x0-0x39039].com.apple.systemuiserver[1075]) Exited abnormally: Floating point exception
23/06/2008 10:54:49 com.apple.launchd[147] ([0x0-0x3a03a].com.apple.systemuiserver[1081]) Exited abnormally: Floating point exception
23/06/2008 11:41:17 com.apple.launchd[147] ([0x0-0x3c03c].com.apple.systemuiserver[1088]) Exited abnormally: Floating point exception
23/06/2008 12:17:59 com.apple.launchd[147] ([0x0-0x41041].com.apple.systemuiserver[1114]) Exited abnormally: Floating point exception
23/06/2008 12:57:43 com.apple.launchd[147] ([0x0-0x43043].com.apple.systemuiserver[1130]) Exited abnormally: Floating point exception
23/06/2008 13:00:53 com.apple.launchd[147] ([0x0-0x48048].com.apple.systemuiserver[1151]) Exited abnormally: Floating point exception
23/06/2008 13:01:30 com.apple.launchd[147] ([0x0-0x4a04a].com.apple.systemuiserver[1157]) Exited abnormally: Floating point exception
23/06/2008 17:49:15 com.apple.launchd[147] ([0x0-0x4b04b].com.apple.systemuiserver[1159]) Exited abnormally: Floating point exception
23/06/2008 17:53:10 com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[147]) Exited abnormally: Floating point exception
23/06/2008 17:53:13 com.apple.loginwindow[53] LSOpenApplication returned error -10810, path=/System/Library/CoreServices/SystemUIServer.app
23/06/2008 18:28:48 UserEventAgent[156] CalAlarmAgent :: WARNING: could not launch iCal Helper
23/06/2008 18:38:44 Dock[161] [QL ERROR] Can't get server port for <QLClient com.apple.quicklook>: (ipc/send) invalid destination port
23/06/2008 18:38:44 com.apple.loginwindow[53] LSOpenApplication returned error -10810, path=/System/Library/CoreServices/Dock.app


naquaada 06-23-2008 08:08 PM

Have you tested a second time? I'm not sure that these erros are because of the BIOS setting and the -legacy flag. Man, I'm working with Logic and it works! Only Firefox seems to crash the system sometimes.

Voyn1x 06-23-2008 08:47 PM

No these are the errors I get normally when running both cores - basically there was no change after making the amends to the com.apple.boot.plist and bios. I really think changing my mobo is the only solution for the time being (or sticking with cpus=1).

R0GUE 06-23-2008 11:19 PM

Even after two hours of uptime with the -legacy flag I got the dreaded -10810 error. Back to cpus=1 ...

naquaada 06-24-2008 12:09 AM

when do you get this error?

ClawHammer 06-24-2008 09:57 PM

Hi All

I was having the mouse bug and random crashes particularly with transmission but also Quicktime and Safari and also apparently I was getting random restarts as well. I tried a few different things but the kernel flags notsc=1 and nohpet=1 seem to be doing the trick. My system has been stable now for 2 days with only 1 safari crash. Before I was lucky to get 3 hours out of it. The cpus=1 did the trick as well, but if I can be stable and dual-core, I'll take it.

Specs:
Athlon 64 X2 6000+
3GB DDR2 667
Geforce 7900 GS
Apple USB Keyboard
Logitech MX400 mouse
OS X 10.5.3 (Leo4Allv3 updated)

StealthMode 06-24-2008 11:56 PM

What do those kernel flags do?

ClawHammer 06-25-2008 02:08 AM

It is my understanding that notsc flag keeps the kernel from checking the time stamp counters on the cores of the cpu. AMD time stamp counters have a tendency to drift apart from one another, so it can cause strange crashes. I did the nohpet flag because I wasn't sure if I had hpet.

ClawHammer 06-25-2008 06:36 AM

uptime just passed 62 hours, stable as a rock w/ dual core enabled. I think we may have a winner.

Puttabong 06-25-2008 08:34 AM

Amazing News!
I can't wait for Voyn1x and Rogue to confirm that it works - I hope.

Thanks ClawHammer. :-)