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Taisto 03-31-2009 09:20 PM

iPhone OS 3.0 & iPhone 3GS
 
Well, probably many of you already know that, just want to notify those who missed it :)

http://www.apple.com/iphone/preview-iphone-os/

iPhone 3.0 with :

- Copy&Paste
- Horizontal Keyboard
- MMS
- AdHoc WiFi
- Spotlight
- And over 100 new functions + over 1000 new APIs for SDK ( already available )

Well, the thing is i`m interested in MMS messages. Apple said that this function will be available only on 3G iPhone due to "different type of gsm transmitter", do you guys know something about this ? I mean, what`s different there that it`s not possible ? Or maybe it`s just a trick to push users towards the 3G model ? Well, on jailbroken iPhones 2G we had MMS app - though it didnt work in "realtime", but rather like the Mail app, but still...

What do you guys think about it ?

zack 04-23-2009 09:14 PM

Beta 3 came out a little while ago. Its comming along nicely although I can't really say that it is as much as an improvement that 2.0 brought along. Out of the current main improvements the only ones that I would use would be spotlight, horizontal in some apps & maybe copy/paste. I don't use my iPod for much work. I think that one of the main improvements will be that the apps that the devs make will be able to do more.

Taisto 04-23-2009 09:35 PM

To be honest, i`m waiting for MMS and horizontal keyboard the most. Well, push notifications are hot feature as well. Well, we`ll see what will those "100+ new features" announced by Apple be. Also heard that 3.0 works faster and more smooth than 2.2, but i can`t say anything as i havent used it - 99$ for beta is a little too much for me cause i simply dont need it.

erick2red 04-23-2009 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taisto (Post 25169)
To be honest, i`m waiting for MMS and horizontal keyboard the most. Well, push notifications are hot feature as well. Well, we`ll see what will those "100+ new features" announced by Apple be. Also heard that 3.0 works faster and more smooth than 2.2, but i can`t say anything as i havent used it - 99$ for beta is a little too much for me cause i simply dont need it.

download the SDK cost?, no eh?

Taisto 04-23-2009 09:57 PM

No, SDK is free of course. But if you want your iPhone authorized and activated to test OS 3.0 Beta, you have to get a paid subscription.

http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/

erick2red 04-23-2009 10:01 PM

If is not this way, how can you test it?

Taisto 04-23-2009 10:05 PM

Well, actually you cant test 3.0 right now unless u`re registered there. SDK for 2.2.1 is free of course and includes iPhone simulator, but free SDK including 3.0 will be available later ( probably the same time as the 3.0 itself )

zack 04-23-2009 11:00 PM

I'm coding some apps for fun to put in the app store so I saved up and paid the subscription. You get access to a forum, the 3.0 SDK, 3.0 firmwares (iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPod 1st generation, iPod 2nd generation). From what I read you also get two technical support things. Not sure exactly what they are for yet.

Taisto 04-24-2009 11:02 PM

So, can you provide us with some info about 3.0 OS ? I mean - are there any new, visible features which are not so well known ( known like for example mms, or copy&paste cause everyone knows about them already ). How about the speed ?

xXrkidXx 04-26-2009 02:17 AM

zack, i have that problem with MxTube sometimes, think theres a connection? :P

Taisto 06-08-2009 08:22 PM

The New iPhone OS 3.0

It's finally announced and official. The update is coming out on June 17th.
Sneak peak of the new software, and the new model of iPhone is on the web. It looks like it's not going to change much on the inside, and almost nothing changed on the outside.

And here is the comparison of 3GS and 3G models :

Comparison

Seems like the only difference is :

2 hours more talk time on 2G network.
Improved Performance ( new processor ? it is told as well that it has 256Mb RAM )
3Mp Camera with Autofocus and Video Recording
Digital Compass
Voice-controll

Well, as for me - only the "Improved Performance" seems like a "do want" feature. So i guess i wont change mine until next generation.

Voyn1x 06-08-2009 09:03 PM

There's nothing that would stop them adding voice control to the 3G, hell the Google app does it. I'm pretty sure that's an artifical software limit to help sell devices. Hopefully the QuickPwn team can unlock some of these 3GS only applications.

I noticed the specs page says it now has a new fingerprint-resistant oleophobic coating - i think that was an unannounced feature.

I think 'meh' sums it up nicely :-/

R0GUE 06-08-2009 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voyn1x (Post 27683)
I think 'meh' sums it up nicely :-/

On a whole I was completely underwhelmed with the new iPhone and keynote. I personally feel that the new 3GS doesn't really provide current 3G owners with much of an upgrade incentive. Certainly there are some advantages with better battery life and slightly faster hardware, but surely certain features such as video could have been provided within iPhone OS 3.0 rather than making it a 3GS only feature? You've only got to look at Cyrecorder (a jailbreak app) to realise that this is already possible on current generation iPhones (albeit a bit choppy at times). Voice recognition has also been accomplished by Google for their search app. I do understand that companies have a business model and need to achieve certain goals particularly when it comes to making money, but I sometimes do wonder if Apple is taking us all for idiots.

MoC 06-09-2009 04:07 AM

I just posted this earlier in another thread:

Wow Apple's milking the cash cow, bastards.

I don't see any major update, most of the hype is a new camera and slightly faster chip. 90% of the new features are FIRMWARE. I will keep my original iPhone as long as it lasts because this is just stupid. Do they want us to get new phones every 6 months? Screw that.

Puttabong 06-09-2009 11:36 AM

I have to disagree -- I like the new iPhone 3GS a lot. It might look the same on the outside, but would you really prefer a matte back cover, for instance? I wouldn't. In my opinion, the design of the 3G is gorgeous and doesn't need to be changed. However, I hope Apple fixed the plastic cracking issue!

What do you wanted Apple to introduce? The update is exactly what I was personally waiting for. Now we have a 3MP cam with autofocus and video recording. The iPhone has a faster CPU, more RAM and longer battery life. Amazing! Same design as the 3G and significantly faster speed - I'm ready to upgrade from my classic 2G.

MoC 06-09-2009 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puttabong (Post 27706)
I have to disagree -- I like the new iPhone 3GS a lot. It might look the same on the outside, but would you really prefer a matte back cover, for instance? I wouldn't. In my opinion, the design of the 3G is gorgeous and doesn't need to be changed. However, I hope Apple fixed the plastic cracking issue!

What do you wanted Apple to introduce? The update is exactly what I was personally waiting for. Now we have a 3MP cam with autofocus and video recording. The iPhone has a faster CPU, more RAM and longer battery life. Amazing! Same design as the 3G and significantly faster speed - I'm ready to upgrade from my classic 2G.

I didn't like the 3G because its wobbly on flat surfaces and that the plastic back broke frequently (from what I read). Never had that problem with aluminum. Each to his own I guess. :D

Puttabong 06-09-2009 03:01 PM

Hi MoC,

Indeed, I also love the aluminium back of the iPhone 2G - the 3G's plastic is certainly cheaper. However, I personally prefer the rounded design of the 3G because it feels better in my hands. The plastic also provides better grip. Don't get me wrong, I personally like all the iPhones Apple released, yet.

zack 06-09-2009 06:18 PM

The new SDK now has two versions. One for Leopard and one for Snow Leopard.

Some info on the new SDK:
-Requires OS X 10.5.7 or Snow Leopad Final Developer Preview (Build 10A380)
-You can now use the iPhone SDK 3.0 for submitting for iPhone 2.2.1 applications

File Sizes:
-iPhone / iPhone 3G / iPod Touch G1 : ~230MB
-iPod Touch 2G : 258MB
-SDK for Leopard : 2.1GB
-SDK for Snow Leopard (get this) : 404MB !?!

Just went through the release and not much has changed feature wise from beta 5. I'm not telling! Not sure when beta 5 is going to expire but I upgraded all the devices just in case.

Ali C. 06-17-2009 09:59 PM

Well 3.0 is OUT.
Nice stuff. :D Of course Youtube wouldn't connect earlier but I just resynced and that fixed it. Seems there's a graphic bug or two though. :\

Taisto 06-17-2009 11:50 PM

Yeah, i've updated already - no problems with activation this time. Works nice - im surprised with the quality of voice memos, its really good. Also it works very smooth, and at last we have copy&paste and landscape messaging :) Did't find any major bugs - at least yet.

R0GUE 06-18-2009 09:06 AM

The update went smoothly for me too. My phone feels much 'snappier' which proves to me that Apple has really optimised the software. I'm rather impressed with the new features and am wondering to myself if there really is any need to jailbreak considering that most of the features I require are now native.

Aydinz 06-18-2009 11:07 AM

:) love the new update, like people said feels a lot faster and i will be one who wont be going back to jailbreak i think, no need anymore :) the only possible reason i might go back is for themes :) and a weird feature, when i restored my settings from a backup i had of a jailbroken iphone now on the OS 3.0 i have a percentage of the battery i have left sitting next to the battery icon :) which is quite cool :) iphone is currently syncing with all my content, but when it finishes i will post up the shot :)

edit:
http://localhostr.com/files/b7387b/IMG_0172.PNG

Taisto 06-18-2009 01:51 PM

Thats strange but i've heard some ppl testing beta saying that there is % battery meter in OS3.0 but i dont know how to turn it on - or is it true anyway.

But what i have to say - i love the spotlight. I know already that i will use it a looot. It works great, and i never imagined it'll be so fast. MMS is working, copy/paste working, undo/redo also, horizontal mode which i've written of before. What i still miss is sending photos via BT or WIFI, but well, maybe some 3rd party app will enable that.

MoC 07-20-2009 01:47 PM

I haven't fiddled with my iPhone in a while. It's on 2.1 and...it does what I need it to but these features are something that I'd like to upgrade to.

My question is, how do I upgrade to 3.0 without loosing all my Jailbroken and patched AppStore Apps. I remember there was a backup utility a while ago for 1.x.x but I haven't heard anything since. Any help would be appreciated.