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Is it impossible to install vanilla 10.5.6 on a Dell Optiplex 745 ? Vanilla 10.5.5 ok
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Intel Q965 Express chipset. ICH8 I have now tried this twice. Latest, following these instructions to the T : http://www.charl13dontsurf.com/?p=87 and http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/ind...post&p=1018748 I have an EFI partition. Even placed the following kexts into it : AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement.kext (from working 10.5.5) and IntelCPUPMDisabler.kext (from generic.iso). I used the boot-132 method to install 10.5.0, upgraded in steps (10.5.0 -> 10.5.2 -> 10.5.4 -> 10.5.5). I used the combo 10.5.6 update dmg. I use Chameleon 10.0.12 (I think). I have a patched DSDT. I also went through all the steps in : http://netkas.org/?p=78 For all my pains, I still get the "Still waiting for root device" error. Fortunately, I had the foresight to make a carbon copy clone, and used dd to restore the disk to what it was. Someone, please help me, or check my method. I want to install iWork 09. I do not even want to go to 10.5.7 given the mess it is making of my Macbook (heating and hangs). Thanks. |
"Still waiting for root device" got nothing to with what you did, its about your chipset's SATA or IDE controller not being detected. For Intel ICH, if it doesnt support AHCI, you would need a patched IntelPIIXATA.kext with support for your ICH8, try the one by Dune you can find it at insanelymac.
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I am afraid that is not it. I tried this today. Copied drivers from http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/ind...&mode=threaded for 10.5.6. Added them to the EFI partition. Recreated the Extensions.mkext in /Volumes/EFI/System/Booter. Removed the AppleVIAATA.kext as suggested. Got the same error (Still waiting for root device). Then booted in with the retail DVD (using the boot-132). Fired up terminal. Copied the given drivers over the IOATAFamily.kext in /System/Library/Extensions, deleted Extensions.mkext, rebooted with -s -v -f. Same error. I checked the original AppleVIAATA driver. The Info.plist contains ICH-8 support. It also contains some extra strings. In desperation, I copied it back to EFI and the System extensions. Still the same error. I liked your response, because you suggested something new. I am afraid that it is not working out. Any other ideas ? Now I am trying to restore back from the clone. |
Your post has conflicting information, the guides you linked reference Kalway, but you also mention Boot132. :confused:
You should try the Chameleon 2.0 installer, as it contains legacy kexts for ICHx support which you can optionally install. You shouldn't need to touch the main partition at all. Briefly, for a retail vanilla install you need to:
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I used boot-132 generic iso to install 10.5.0 from Retail DVD. I just tried the chameleon 2.0 RC1 (the latest) package installer and installed it on to my pre-existing EFI. I now get Still waiting for root device error even for 10.5.5. Now I have to repair my EFI by removing the three extra kexts that chameleon installed. Well, its worse than that. It refuses to boot even with the generic iso cd. Now I need to use a Retail DVD to remove the /Extra directory because I had stupidly installed these on to Macintosh HD prior to doing the EFI install. :( Recovered after the steps above. Back to 10.5.5. A clarification - I cannot set AHCI mode for my SATA disk. Maybe that is related to all of this. |
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diskutil listI presume you formatted the drive GUID before installing. Is the drive SATA, if so did you check for an AHCI option in the bios? What I find strange is that the Boot132 kexts work but not from the EFI partition... Am I right 10.5.5 works without the Boot132 disk? |
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I believe that I have ended up confusing you guys. This is what this machine has seen so far : 1. Used boot-132 method to install 10.5.0 (using Retail DVD). 2. Upgraded to .2-> .4 -> .5. 3. I created an EFI partition using various tutorials around (manually). For instance, I used http://www.ihackintosh.com/2009/04/h...meleon-20-rc1/. The funny thing is that I used the same chameleon version - did not use the extra kexts, but the same boot (no GUI installation), and the EFI works. I also used a bit of common sense info from munky's post on insanelymac. Installed the contents of boot-132 generic.iso initrd.img to /Volumes/EFI/Extra/Extensions. 4. I have some plist files : $ ls -ltrh /Volumes/EFI/Extra/ total 64 -rw-r--r--@ 1 root admin 1.7K Jun 4 13:25 smbios.plist drwxr-xr-x@ 7 root admin 238B Jun 4 13:25 Themes -rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 409B Jun 17 12:04 com.apple.Boot.plist -rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 4.2K Jun 18 10:37 com.apple.network.identification.plist -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 6.8K Jun 19 10:04 preferences.plist -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 907B Jun 19 10:04 com.apple.airport.preferences.plist -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1.3K Jun 22 16:39 NetworkInterfaces.plist drwxr-xr-x 24 root wheel 816B Jul 1 14:22 Extensions 5. Added in some extra kexts for my AR5005G card to EFI as well as System extensions (I had a hard time getting that to work). 6. Added in some extra sound kexts (AC97 and Azalia) to the above two locations. Even tried the patched AppleHDA from Taruga. No go. The device shows up, but no sound. No worries. This is a work machine. I do not need sound in my work. So, I am letting things stand as they are. 7. Upshot - the system boots properly (10.5.5) without any CD rom in the drive, with the EFI partition. I cannot hibernate and resume (always get the too old a sleep image message on boot). On attempting to sleep (I have smart sleep panel thing installed), the system makes a clicking sound, and then comes back. Due to unclean loading of the AR5005G kext, the system usually freezes at this point. I simply power off normally when I am done. I would like to have hibernation work at some point, but it is not a show stopper. Now, I want to upgrade to 10.5.6 since I want to install iWork 09. I know there is a way to mess around with plists and make the installer think it is 10.5.6, but I do not want that. I have patched my DSDT and have a DSDT.aml file in my /Volumes/EFI as well as /. Getting back to what you asked : I did partition using the GUID scheme. $ diskutil list /dev/disk0 #: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER 0: GUID_partition_scheme *149.0 Gi disk0 1: EFI 200.0 Mi disk0s1 2: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD 50.9 Gi disk0s2 3: Apple_HFS 97.7 Gi disk0s3 /dev/disk1 #: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER 0: Private *97.7 Gi disk1 Don't worry about disk1/disk0s3 - it is just my truecrypt volume that contains all the user data - necessary since I am messing with the Macintosh HD so much. EFI extensions : $ ls -ltrh /Volumes/EFI/Extra/Extensions/ total 0 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102B Jun 4 13:29 SMBIOSEnabler.kext drwxr-xr-x@ 3 root wheel 102B Jun 4 13:29 AppleAC97Audio.kext drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102B Jun 4 13:29 ACPIPS2Nub.kext drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102B Jun 4 13:29 AppleACPIPlatform.kext drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102B Jun 4 13:29 AppleAzaliaAudio.kext drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102B Jun 4 13:29 AppleAPIC.kext drwxr-xr-x@ 3 root wheel 102B Jun 4 13:29 AppleAHCIPort.kext drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102B Jun 4 13:29 ApplePS2Controller.kext drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102B Jun 4 13:29 AppleNForceATA.kext drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 170B Jun 4 13:29 AppleIntelIntegratedFramebuffer.kext drwxr-xr-x@ 3 root wheel 102B Jun 4 13:29 AppleGenericPCATA.kext drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102B Jun 4 13:29 AppleSMBIOS.kext drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102B Jun 4 13:29 dsmos.kext drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102B Jun 4 13:29 IntelCPUPMDisabler.kext drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 136B Jun 4 13:29 NVkush.kext drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102B Jun 17 14:36 IO80211Family.kext drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102B Jun 17 16:03 IONetworkingFamily.kext drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102B Jun 29 12:42 AppleHDA.kext drwxr-xr-x@ 3 root wheel 102B Jun 29 13:43 HDAEnabler.kext drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102B Jun 29 16:45 AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement.kext drwxr-xr-x@ 3 root wheel 102B Jul 1 13:23 AppleVIAATA.kext I mentioned this earlier. I do not have AHCI as a possible option in my setup. In BIOS SATA operation - my choices are Normal and Legacy. Legacy leads to the HD above not getting detected. So, no AHCI. Do I need to update my BIOS ? |
Optiplex 745 and OSX86 10.5.6
Hi, I am having the same experience with 10.5.6 and Optiplex 745. iDeneb 10.5.5 installed with Patches worked like a charm! The trying to upgrade with iDeneb 10.5.6 upgrade has been impossible. I tried everything from the various posts, i.e. voodoo, chameleon x.12, DSDT patching, etc. etc. Nothing worked. I am getting the same error of "Still waiting for root device".
This is especially painful, because using the same known techniques on another computer I have (ASRock MB) I installed iDeneb 10.5.5 and then I upgraded to 10.5.6 and later to 10.5.7. No major issues, following the usual methods I did it and it worked fine! My Optiplex 745, however, is my main PC, and I would love to get it upgraded. Watching and reading carefully to see if anyone can do it, and how! Thanks, Aposdimi |
I'm not familiar with munky's method (I found it unnecessarily complicated if you dont need to exchange disk between mac/pc) but with all those ATA kexts you have there it should boot.
You have many ATA kexts in your Extra but not the one for Intel ICH, Intel ICHx controllers work with a modded AppleIntelPIIXATA (with your device id, the vanilla one only has a couple of ids) and the vanilla IOATAFamily, the rest should not be needed at all. I would try to use fewer kexts if posible, just get rid of all the foreign ATA ones. The difference between Normal and Legacy settings in ICH are not clear but I think in Legacy Mode you could be missing some ports (in legacy SATA behaves as a single IDE controller who can have at most 4 ports, if you have 6 SATA ports, 2 of them are disabled for compatibility; in normal mode you could have 2 different IDE Controllers, one with 4 ports and another one with 2 more ports). From what I know Apple kexts should work with normal mode. |
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Thanks. I had tried this earlier (see an earlier post in the thread). Then I tried to remove the AppleVIAata.kext, and I got the same error. I think you are on the right track, as this root device error is logically a chipset error, and not an OS error (related to the power management). |
If your system doesnt work with the modded AppleIntelPIIXATA I would say your problem is either:
- It has a device id not present in the info.plist (doubt it, its supposed to have all ICHx ids) - You have some other ATA kext installed that is causing a conflict, taking over it. - You have some mismatched kexts versions between /Extra and /S/L/E, and the wrong one is loading. |
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1. Install 10.5.6 the way I am doing so far. 2. List everything in EFI and everything in S/L/E and see if there are any matches. The reason is that this thing goes south only after I upgrade to 10.5.6. 10.5.5 works fine. It has to be an EFI kext, because my understanding is that they are loaded first, and any matching S/L/E kexts are ignored (or do they over-ride ? - suggested by the exhortation to delete the CPU Powermanagement kext from S/L/E in the netkas instructions). Device ids. ? How do I check that ? |
If it only breaks after upgrading it probably means the update installed a new unpatched kext in /S/L/E and that one is overriding the one from /Extra.
From what I understand kexts from EFI/Extra are loaded first but the same-name kexts from /S/L/E are only ignored if version is same or older, if they are newer they are loaded and override the ones from /Extra. |
Dell Optiplex 745 and iDeneb 10.5.6
I finally managed to get Optiplex 745 to work with iDeneb 10.5.6 and even 10.5.7.
Here is how I did it. Steps taken for installing iDeneb 10.5.7 on Dell Optiplex 745, Core2Duo 2.66 GHz, Broadcom NetXtreme (MB) and RTL8139 network card (PCI), Soundmax HD sound, Intel Q965/Q963 Graphics, USB keyboard and mouse: 0. Step 0 for me is to have OS X in second partition, first partition is Windows XP. I use MacDrive so I can see everything in the OS X partition from Windows. I use chain0 for dual boot, Windows XP or OS X. 1. Started with clean iDeneb 10.5.5 install. For patches selected minimal set, tried for only what is needed: I selected the intel chipset, IntelGMA graphics, for sound I selected AC97 and azalia (I didn't know which one), for fixes I included all (note cpus=1 is selected) 2. Install and bootup was flawless, iDeneb 10.5.5 is fantastic for that! Note for my monitor I had to specify "Graphics Mode"="1024x768" at bootup, then I had to modify boot.plist for that. Internet worked (RTL8139) and sound worked immediately. 3. Then I prepared for the 10.5.6 installation, by using PCWiz OSX86 universal installer, and DSDT gui patcher. Then, I updated with iDeneb 10.5.6 upgrade kit. 4. Things get chappy now. I had to use Chameleon 1.0.12 boot loader and voodoo kernel to get it to boot. I did get the PCGenUSBEHCI errors, but the boot went through twice, the first time it rebooted at the end. Note the flags "cpus=1 -f -v" seem to be necessary for boot. 5. Once I rebooted a few times, things were OK, I continue to need to set the verbose mode, -v, and -f. Somehow it needs these! 6. Then I upgraded with iDeneb 10.5.7. Very similar to 10.5.6, requires the double boot at first time, and same flags, cpus=1 -v -f. 7. After this I updated my installation through Apple. I selected what I needed. Note, for me the first step of installing cleanly iDeneb 10.5.5 was a must. I tried this with a sloppy install and things did not work well! If someone can comment or enhance my process I would appreciate the feedback. I am particularly interested in the flags (why -v -f cpus=1) and fixing the PCGenUSBEHCI error. Regards.... |
Thanks for the info. However, I do not see PCGenUSBEHCI errors. Plus, this is a dual core system. Can't really use cpus=1.
Currently do have the time to do extensive experimentation, but none of the things you mentioned have anything to do with the chipset. Plus, I am using retail DVD. |