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Old 05-09-2009, 10:18 PM
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What disk? Teenagers had no disks then Or maybe 1 in 20.
Was this a joke question? Or do you mistake 'disk' and 'disc'?

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Old 05-09-2009, 11:12 PM
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No, that's Andys French/Dutch and my German variant spelling of disc drive, were are talking about

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc
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Old 05-09-2009, 11:28 PM
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You're from Germany, like me? Add it in your personal information plz, it's always good to know for users who aren't so good in English which person they may contact to talk in their native language.

I thought you mistaked 'Floppy Disk' with 'Compact Disc' I know an advert from 1982 which showed a VIC-20 at a price of 899 DM (459 Euro) and the VC-1540 disk drive at 1748 DM (893 Euro!). 10 disks were costing 99 DM (50 Euro) these times

In the most countries disk drives spread rather fast, especcially as the prices were getting lower. The only country were disks where not too often used was the UK, there they used mostly cassettes and cardridges. Does anyone of you know these crazy Microdrives of the Sinclair Spectrum and QL?

As we talked about high costs of disks and so, I still have a bill about two 650MB single-speed CD-R's - each costed 17 DM (8.5 Euro)! I think this was 1996. My first CD-RW burner costed 599 DM (306 Euro), it was a Yamaha CRW-4416 SCSI burner for my Amiga 4000T. I still have it and it still works!

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Old 05-10-2009, 12:17 AM
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You're from Germany, like me?
Quite near actually: Eschwege.

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Microdrives of the Sinclair Spectrum and QL?
Never used those, switched from Sinclar ZX81 (1KB ) to C64 in 82/83.
Sir Sinclair was quite a genius, but his Microdrives sucked.
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Old 05-10-2009, 12:29 AM
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No, that's Andys French/Dutch and my German variant spelling of disc drive, were are talking about

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc
It's dutch actually and I was talking about the floppy disk drive (diskettestation in Dutch)
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Old 05-10-2009, 12:31 AM
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As we talked about high costs of disks and so, I still have a bill about two 650MB single-speed CD-R's - each costed 17 DM (8.5 Euro)! I think this was 1996. My first CD-RW burner costed 599 DM (306 Euro), it was a Yamaha CRW-4416 SCSI burner for my Amiga 4000T. I still have it and it still works!
Yeah those early disc burners were almost impossible to break...
Also most were SCSI based (which is great I think)

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Old 05-10-2009, 12:31 AM
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Valentine: Yes, I'm near Kassel and Puttabong near Gφttingen. Small world

I've got a friend who does a lot with Spectrum stuff. He has a lot of them, with special disk drives and even clones from the GDR. His favorite is one of the rare Sam Coupe computers he owns, he also has a CompactFlash interface and whatever for this thing. Unfortunately the leader of the Spectum and Sam Club in Germany had a apoplexy (Schlaganfall). That's really bad

Andy: Yes, at the former times SCSI was better than IDE, also because you could connect 7 devices to one port. But in the actual times SATA is a great solution. No huge flat cables anmore, looks crappy in my A4000T, and to get a round SCSI cable is nearly impossible. My two CMD harddrives for the C64 are SCSI too. I'm using 230MB MO drives instead of a harddisk, they're quieter, have the same speed and 230MB are really a lot for the C64.

BTW guys, please reduce the use of quotes - otherwise the threads are getting too long. And Andy, Superhai is now here, too.

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My Audio stuff: M-Audio Transit USB (default audio), M-Audio ProFire 610, M-Audio ProFire Lightbridge (34 channels) using Creamware A16 ADAT converter • MIDI: M-Audio Midiman 4x MIDI interface • Behringer Audio Mixers: Xenyx 1002, Xenyx 1002FX, Xenyx 1202FX, Eurorack UB1002FX, Eurorack MX1804FX, Eurorack MX262A • FX devices: Lexicon MPX100 DSP, Behringer DSP-1000 Virtualizer, Behringer MiniFEX 800 DSP, Behringer Multicom Pro MDX4400 compressor • RETRO: MSSIAH midi/sequencer/synthesizer cardridge for the C64 (Dual-SID), Steinberg M.S.I. MIDI Interface for C64

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Old 05-10-2009, 12:41 AM
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Man... a stroke (beroerte) that's bad...
I hope he recovers quickly
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Old 05-10-2009, 12:44 AM
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Unfortunately it doesn't seem so... He was trying but as I heard it's not much anymore he can do...

If anyone likes an old-school webcomic, take a look at Sabrina-online.com. It's from Eric W. Schwartz and still drawn on the Amiga. It's one of the longest updates webcomics, existing for more than 10 years and over 500 strips. Here are some information about the characters in the Wikipedia. I made a PDF of it to download here. But dercrunched it's over 118 MB in size...

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My Audio stuff: M-Audio Transit USB (default audio), M-Audio ProFire 610, M-Audio ProFire Lightbridge (34 channels) using Creamware A16 ADAT converter • MIDI: M-Audio Midiman 4x MIDI interface • Behringer Audio Mixers: Xenyx 1002, Xenyx 1002FX, Xenyx 1202FX, Eurorack UB1002FX, Eurorack MX1804FX, Eurorack MX262A • FX devices: Lexicon MPX100 DSP, Behringer DSP-1000 Virtualizer, Behringer MiniFEX 800 DSP, Behringer Multicom Pro MDX4400 compressor • RETRO: MSSIAH midi/sequencer/synthesizer cardridge for the C64 (Dual-SID), Steinberg M.S.I. MIDI Interface for C64

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Old 05-10-2009, 12:57 AM
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Well actually I was not to fond on all the hardware we had in the 80's.
What we admired was a Cray 2. Now we all got several times more computing power than that
(and since OS X it actually feels like that ). A dream came true in sort of no time.

I am going to leave this retro tread alone now. Enyoy the old crap. I'm gonna go on dreaming of my HAL 9000. Good morning Dave...



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