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Old 06-12-2008, 01:54 PM
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@ Puttabong:

PC keyboards are not always the same. I couldn't type with a cherry keyboard where every key clicks. I know keyboards from a lot of computers, the C64 keybord needs a lot of pressure, but you can use it for long, the C128 keyboard is way better although you still need pressure. It's better because the form of the keys. The Amiga keyboard is great, while Atari keyboards are crap. Sinclair used rubber keys for the Spectrum ;-) This computer was designed to be extremely cheap, that's why it has RAM chips which were defective in one half. PC/XT keyboards (10 f-keys on the left side) are cruel, also the early IBM keyboards - but some people swar of them, it's the same with Cherry keyboards. I think the old Fujitsu/Siemens keyboards wre rather soft, not good for work. Since 2003 I'm using Logitech wireless keyboards and won't get away from them. But I have 4 different versions, all feel different, but all are good. I haven't tested Apple keyboards for a longer time yet, but at least the look of the Macbook keyboards is horrible and I'm not sure if they are good for long work. For normal use I have the problem that Apple keyboards have a cable, and I don't trust Bluetooth. The Logitech controller supports up to 1024 different keyboards, this is good because I have 4 computers with wireless keyboard/mouse combinations in one room. The Mighty Mouse is horrible. I need to feel and hear the keys and the scroll wheel. The scroll ball on the Mighty Mouse is too small for me, maybe 'cause I have thin fingers, keine Wurstfinger ;-) A mouse is also important, the new Logitech mice are too big for me.

@ Voyn1x:

I know that my posts to a simple subject will get a little song sometimes (see above), but this happens for information or because you can't judge everything with one sentence, like Puttabong and his Apple keyboard. A lot of users give an answer in one sentence only, and often this isn't enough.

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My Audio stuff: M-Audio Transit USB (default audio), M-Audio ProFire 610, M-Audio ProFire Lightbridge (34 channels) using Creamware A16 ADAT converter MIDI: M-Audio Midiman 4x MIDI interfaceBehringer Audio Mixers: Xenyx 1002, Xenyx 1002FX, Xenyx 1202FX, Eurorack UB1002FX, Eurorack MX1804FX, Eurorack MX262A • FX devices: Lexicon MPX100 DSP, Behringer DSP-1000 Virtualizer, Behringer MiniFEX 800 DSP, Behringer Multicom Pro MDX4400 compressor RETRO: MSSIAH midi/sequencer/synthesizer cardridge for the C64 (Dual-SID), Steinberg M.S.I. MIDI Interface for C64
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Old 06-12-2008, 02:10 PM
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Hey Puttabong: This would be the ideal keyboard for you. As flat as an Apple keyboard but way cheaper ;-D

2 Opteron systems: OSx86 10.5.8, Andy's 9.8.0 kernel, Asus A8N-SLI Premium, Opteron 185 o'clocked @ 2 x 2,95 GHz (2nd system 2.6 GHz), ATI Radeon HD2600XT 256MB Dual-Monitor 2x HP L2035, 4 GB RAM, Griffin FireWave as main audio device, Marvell + nForce LAN, Asus U3S6 USB3/SATA6 card, 5,5 TB harddisk, Firewire 800 card, Apple Remote + eHome IR receiver, 2x Wacom serial graphics tablet, Canon Pixma iP4700, Logitech Internet Navigator wireless keyboard/mouse combination.

My Audio stuff: M-Audio Transit USB (default audio), M-Audio ProFire 610, M-Audio ProFire Lightbridge (34 channels) using Creamware A16 ADAT converter MIDI: M-Audio Midiman 4x MIDI interfaceBehringer Audio Mixers: Xenyx 1002, Xenyx 1002FX, Xenyx 1202FX, Eurorack UB1002FX, Eurorack MX1804FX, Eurorack MX262A • FX devices: Lexicon MPX100 DSP, Behringer DSP-1000 Virtualizer, Behringer MiniFEX 800 DSP, Behringer Multicom Pro MDX4400 compressor RETRO: MSSIAH midi/sequencer/synthesizer cardridge for the C64 (Dual-SID), Steinberg M.S.I. MIDI Interface for C64
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Old 06-12-2008, 02:12 PM
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Argh! That's terrible.
I use an Apple Alumium Keyboard and I am in love with it. Best Keyboard I have ever used. :-)
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Old 06-12-2008, 02:13 PM
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Have you tested it in a microwave oven?

2 Opteron systems: OSx86 10.5.8, Andy's 9.8.0 kernel, Asus A8N-SLI Premium, Opteron 185 o'clocked @ 2 x 2,95 GHz (2nd system 2.6 GHz), ATI Radeon HD2600XT 256MB Dual-Monitor 2x HP L2035, 4 GB RAM, Griffin FireWave as main audio device, Marvell + nForce LAN, Asus U3S6 USB3/SATA6 card, 5,5 TB harddisk, Firewire 800 card, Apple Remote + eHome IR receiver, 2x Wacom serial graphics tablet, Canon Pixma iP4700, Logitech Internet Navigator wireless keyboard/mouse combination.

My Audio stuff: M-Audio Transit USB (default audio), M-Audio ProFire 610, M-Audio ProFire Lightbridge (34 channels) using Creamware A16 ADAT converter MIDI: M-Audio Midiman 4x MIDI interfaceBehringer Audio Mixers: Xenyx 1002, Xenyx 1002FX, Xenyx 1202FX, Eurorack UB1002FX, Eurorack MX1804FX, Eurorack MX262A • FX devices: Lexicon MPX100 DSP, Behringer DSP-1000 Virtualizer, Behringer MiniFEX 800 DSP, Behringer Multicom Pro MDX4400 compressor RETRO: MSSIAH midi/sequencer/synthesizer cardridge for the C64 (Dual-SID), Steinberg M.S.I. MIDI Interface for C64
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Old 06-12-2008, 02:14 PM
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No, I am lucky that my mind is in a good shape. :-)
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Old 06-12-2008, 02:15 PM
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It is a user-defineable keyboard - can you bend it?

2 Opteron systems: OSx86 10.5.8, Andy's 9.8.0 kernel, Asus A8N-SLI Premium, Opteron 185 o'clocked @ 2 x 2,95 GHz (2nd system 2.6 GHz), ATI Radeon HD2600XT 256MB Dual-Monitor 2x HP L2035, 4 GB RAM, Griffin FireWave as main audio device, Marvell + nForce LAN, Asus U3S6 USB3/SATA6 card, 5,5 TB harddisk, Firewire 800 card, Apple Remote + eHome IR receiver, 2x Wacom serial graphics tablet, Canon Pixma iP4700, Logitech Internet Navigator wireless keyboard/mouse combination.

My Audio stuff: M-Audio Transit USB (default audio), M-Audio ProFire 610, M-Audio ProFire Lightbridge (34 channels) using Creamware A16 ADAT converter MIDI: M-Audio Midiman 4x MIDI interfaceBehringer Audio Mixers: Xenyx 1002, Xenyx 1002FX, Xenyx 1202FX, Eurorack UB1002FX, Eurorack MX1804FX, Eurorack MX262A • FX devices: Lexicon MPX100 DSP, Behringer DSP-1000 Virtualizer, Behringer MiniFEX 800 DSP, Behringer Multicom Pro MDX4400 compressor RETRO: MSSIAH midi/sequencer/synthesizer cardridge for the C64 (Dual-SID), Steinberg M.S.I. MIDI Interface for C64
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Old 06-12-2008, 02:21 PM
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I have very thin fingers as well, and I love my Mighty Mouse. :-D

When I switched from Razer to Mighty Mouse, it felt unusual because it was rather small.
However, I started to love it. The trackball is very nice. :-)
I don't like the wireless mighty mouse though, because it has a rather bad response time!

I know that many people, including you, don't like it. As far as I remember, rogue doesn't like the MM either!

The Aluminium Apple Keyboard is by far the best Keyboard on the market, if you ask me. For both Mac & Windows. :-)

Do you remember my old comparison picture?



Scary! Almost like Porsche vs. Volkswagen Polo! :-D

I'm very sorry for the dirt inside of the Logitech Internet Navigator, it's quite old, huge and... ugly :-(

The Alu Keyboard is the best choice for long work and there's almost no effort to type the keys, because they are so thin!
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Old 06-12-2008, 02:23 PM
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I know that my posts to a simple subject will get a little song sometimes (see above), but this happens for information or because you can't judge everything with one sentence, like Puttabong and his Apple keyboard. A lot of users give an answer in one sentence only, and often this isn't enough.
Hey i'm not complaining, this is a good thing! I was kind of taken aback at how much you actually know!!

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Old 06-12-2008, 02:48 PM
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That's my working place:



from left to right:

- 8+2 channel Behringer mixer for input (for my M-Audio USB Quattro)
- 5+2 channel Behringer mixer for output
- Behringer MiniFEX 800 effect processor (in the background)
- external iSight
- USB/Firewire 2,5" HD
- Samsung Syncmaster 20" TFT
- Logitech Internet Navigator Cordless Keyboard/mouse
- soldering station (background)

The remotes are for my Video/SVideo->VGA adapter, 2x Apple Remote, Windows Media center remote and a remote for wireless switches, so I need only one key to switch on my mixer, the effect processor and the monitor.
But I have to admit, the Apple keyboard is surely better to clean tan other keyboards. Ok, maybe not the rubber keyboards , you can take them into the shower every day ;-)

The space for the mouse is really enough, I only need about 2cm for the full width of 1600 pixels!

2 Opteron systems: OSx86 10.5.8, Andy's 9.8.0 kernel, Asus A8N-SLI Premium, Opteron 185 o'clocked @ 2 x 2,95 GHz (2nd system 2.6 GHz), ATI Radeon HD2600XT 256MB Dual-Monitor 2x HP L2035, 4 GB RAM, Griffin FireWave as main audio device, Marvell + nForce LAN, Asus U3S6 USB3/SATA6 card, 5,5 TB harddisk, Firewire 800 card, Apple Remote + eHome IR receiver, 2x Wacom serial graphics tablet, Canon Pixma iP4700, Logitech Internet Navigator wireless keyboard/mouse combination.

My Audio stuff: M-Audio Transit USB (default audio), M-Audio ProFire 610, M-Audio ProFire Lightbridge (34 channels) using Creamware A16 ADAT converter MIDI: M-Audio Midiman 4x MIDI interfaceBehringer Audio Mixers: Xenyx 1002, Xenyx 1002FX, Xenyx 1202FX, Eurorack UB1002FX, Eurorack MX1804FX, Eurorack MX262A • FX devices: Lexicon MPX100 DSP, Behringer DSP-1000 Virtualizer, Behringer MiniFEX 800 DSP, Behringer Multicom Pro MDX4400 compressor RETRO: MSSIAH midi/sequencer/synthesizer cardridge for the C64 (Dual-SID), Steinberg M.S.I. MIDI Interface for C64
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Old 06-12-2008, 02:49 PM
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Wow, this thread got hijacked in a really big way :-P



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