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Something I noticed that rather irked me...
I was reading a thread on InsanelyMac, and Dense posted something that irritated me a bit.
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"just look at the new iPC DVD) practically no user will know what option to choose and end up with a system that doesn't work. Is this the direction we really want to go?" - he has some right, about that many users will end up with system which doesn`t boot - like me for example at first time, but IMO the more options and ways we have, the more users will find some of them working. And i agree with you about old hardware - users with it who can`t work it out themselves will just leave the community without support - i wouldn`t call it advancement.
Anyway why does he attack iPC release ? it works for many of us so is that wrong ? i don`t think so. www.ultimae.com Panoramic music, for panoramic people. AMD Phenom II X6 3.5Ghz AMD 990FX Chipset Kingston HyperX 16GB 1600Mhz AMD Radeon HD6850 X2 CrossFire Seagate Barracuda Green 2TB |
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i agree that a handfull of people created and coded and whatnot to get the community to a point where it is now, THATS GREAT but i have to agree with iPC also cause not everyone has the cash to track the newest and badest hardware or osx distro for that matter...i installed iPC with the help of ~pcwiz and have a fully working OSX 10.5.6 without a glitch. Does that matter? to me yes. Does support mean anything? to me for sure. Dont get me wrong, i am no fanboy, but a complete noob when it comes to OSX, anyway if you dont know what a terminal is or what type of hardware you have in your rig, or what kexts do work for you, thats an entirely other matter. read. learn. experiment. my 2 cents anyway...
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i only agree with the part that most users that want mac on their have no clue of how a basic PC works, they just want it because it looks cool or god knows what else( at least this is what i understood ). I really dont want super-mega-easy instalation methods for osx86 because all the ..dumb.. people will start using it and then the osx community will become just another winblown community full with crackheads that beg for help and dont offer it back to others. Honestly.. i hope apple wont launch osx on normal PC's... exclusivity is what made apple and osx
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Apple Hardware these days is a basic PC. The only problem is, the Apple hurdles.
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I just had a look at the original thread but it seems your response is not really posted as a direct reply to the comment Dense makes. That makes your comments look a bit strange in the rest of the thread.
Also, it seems you are not alone with your opinion. For what it's worth, I just started out with OSX86 and your distro is the first that worked for me. What I found really nice was the comments you made in the release notes. That was really informative and helpful and something I haven't seen in the other distro's I tried. This might be something to pick up and extend on, also in relation to the initial comments. What if your distro comes with clearer instructions then the others, this together with the universal nature you are aiming for will make it a strong competitor. Just my 2 cts... Code:
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well i do agree with both points. If you can go vanilla then go vanilla. But if you have some odd or rare hardware combination then use a distro that caters for it. One of the biggest issues is if ppl would do a bit of research before they attempted what they tried to do they may be much more successfull with other distros. The end user wants a total plug and play solution but this is almost impossible to attain. The reason being there will always be fresh hardware. The usual install for me now is vanilla thanks to the new kernel. And for anyone else would always reccomend only installing with just the chipset kext and right kernel. As this gives more chance of a initial boot and then when installing fresh kext tracking the one that made it fall over. What I will state again is i think we need a push for just a usb pendrive image that makes a retail dvd boot and copies kexts and kernel over as this would only be a few MB to download. Also PCWiz I think your the man to help me with the parts I cant manage with this type of distro. PM me if your interested
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