Well i analogize yet again for the triple posting, just wanted to tell everyone my "quick" solution to the issue...

Reinstalled OSX using Kalyway 10.5.1, used combo update to 10.5.3, from there downloaded combo update 10.5.8 using pacifist i extracted SystemVersion.plist from /System/Library/CoreServices and installed it to my system fooling OSX into thinking i have 10.5.8 no only will you need to copy 10.5.8 from the SystemVersion.plist but you will also require the build number, did a reboot and installed aim, java, and system updates everything works just have 10.5.3 features but i have ability to install things for 10.5.8

For me... Issue OVER...

Thanks again