[Solved] AMD Dual Core Timing Issue AKA Mouse Bug - Page 14

Ianxxx · #**131** 03-21-2008, 02:08 PM

If I leave the system with just firefox running connected to net but do nothing. After 3 hours as soon as I start to use apps it won't be long before I get a crash "usually firefox" programmes that upload as well as download seem to do this best.
Not connected to the net seems to work fine after 3 hours photoshop coding videos etc etc.
Just need someone else to test this out, if I am right at least it narrows things down a little.
A few folks have mentioned java " I think thats a possibility" except this problem seems to be amd only.

At the moment I have one error in console that persists

com.apple.launchd[1] we crashed at instruction: 0xffff0315 (sent by PID 0)

The error is there at startup

What is this anyone know, or more importantly how to get rid of it?

Snow · #**132** 03-21-2008, 04:08 PM

@lanxxx: I'm using a modem, Ethernet conn, proxy.

I think you guys are on the right track here. Memory leaks could well be the prob. If we look back to our windows days we had similar probs like this. Games in particular can be affected by this.

My scenario yesterday when I had the crash was not very intensive. I was viewing a PS tutorial in iTunes while performing the excersice in PS CS3. PS then crashed while not doing anything particular so I can't simulate the behaviour. No specific error msg, just the log thingy. Then when trying to run PS again it crashes again after a very short period of time.

I still don't know if I have the seperate PS crash issue (due to not proper installation or non crack usage) or if this is related to the mouse bug and other crash probs.
Thing is, PS still crashes, but less and I don't have the mouse bug anymore.

Now, Lanxxx, I'm willing to do the network test but what exactly do you want me to do. unplug the ethernet cable from my pc and let the pc run for a few hours? How long? what apps to run? how much stress do you want me to put on the system? Gimme some spec details fo test scenario.

We should also look into what kexts we are running, those with and without issues cause it might just be a simple kext replacement for all I know. What I'll do know is completely get rid of the d-forcedeth kext. It's still on my disk just in case I ever need the nLAN but I remember some having issues with the net even though they weren't using the nLAN and I think Zeph or someone else recommended removing the forcedeth kext completely.

Puttabong · #**133** 03-21-2008, 04:14 PM

Sorry if this has been thought or said already, or if it's wrong, but I didn't have the time to read any posts in the thread!

I remember exactly this Issue! However, this only occured with an early 10.5.1 version for me.

Now it never happened again.

I thought that it was somehow related to nForce LAN, because when I switched to Wi-Fi and disabled nF4-LAN in BIOS, it never happened again.

mrburns05 · #**134** 03-21-2008, 04:17 PM

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[cite] Ianxxx:[/cite]How many people who are suffering from this also have random crashes from firefox, for me I'm pretty sure the issues are related?
Also this bug used to come on if I downloaded/uploaded a lot.
Are these the things other people recognise?

in getting random crashes from firefox

and then some regular pc crashing:

Once = computer stayed on all night, next morning all applications failed to launch (gave me an error), had to reboot.

Everyother time = left PC on all night (without azureus) system log says (?:??am) We crashed at 0x0000....forgot the numbers)

with azureus i think its a Java issue, i dont know, ill leave it on again tonight and get a log

Ianxxx · #**135** 03-21-2008, 04:22 PM

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[cite] Snow:[/cite]@lanxxx: I'm using a modem, Ethernet conn, proxy.

I think you guys are on the right track here. Memory leaks could well be the prob. If we look back to our windows days we had similar probs like this. Games in particular can be affected by this.

My scenario yesterday when I had the crash was not very intensive. I was viewing a PS tutorial in iTunes while performing the excersice in PS CS3. PS then crashed while not doing anything particular so I can't simulate the behaviour. No specific error msg, just the log thingy. Then when trying to run PS again it crashes again after a very short period of time.

I still don't know if I have the seperate PS crash issue (due to not proper installation or non crack usage) or if this is related to the mouse bug and other crash probs.
Thing is, PS still crashes, but less and I don't have the mouse bug anymore.

Now, Lanxxx, I'm willing to do the network test but what exactly do you want me to do. unplug the ethernet cable from my pc and let the pc run for a few hours? How long? what apps to run? how much stress do you want me to put on the system? Gimme some spec details fo test scenario.

We should also look into what kexts we are running, those with and without issues cause it might just be a simple kext replacement for all I know. What I'll do know is completely get rid of the d-forcedeth kext. It's still on my disk just in case I ever need the nLAN but I remember some having issues with the net even though they weren't using the nLAN and I think Zeph or someone else recommended removing the forcedeth kext completely.

Hiya Snow
yep disconnect lan would be good and run for over 4 hours 3-4 hours seems to be the crucial amount of time. Put the system under as much load as you can be bothered, if you don't get any problems after 4 hours I think we have narrowed down our culprit. I'll be away and won't be back till sunday night, but would really appreciate you doing this test. If we can narrow it down to internet related I think that would be very useful.

Snow · #**136** 03-21-2008, 09:30 PM

K, I'll try this today bud. Do I get payed though?

Next post will be with results!

Ianxxx · #**137** 03-21-2008, 09:36 PM

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[cite] Snow:[/cite]K, I'll try this today bud. Do I get payed though?

Next post will be with results!

Only payement is that you'll know for yourself if this is net related.
And possibly an appreciative following. "you could end up famous HONESTLY" ;-)

WinLinMac01 · #**138** 03-21-2008, 09:37 PM

With eddie11c's my mouse had a problem once where they would be a 2 second delay. It resolved after I reset the safari browser. I don't think this equates with the problem though.

Ianxxx · #**139** 03-21-2008, 10:44 PM

Okay I don't have time to fully test this until tomorrow but for anyone wanting to try a possible solution.
If your memory isn't running in accordance with its spd. Then try it, if your motherboard doesnt have the option of run by spd use cpuz in windows and get the info from there.
As I said this is looking promising so far but can't continue my tests till tomorrow.

agrafuese · #**140** 03-21-2008, 10:54 PM

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[cite] Ianxxx:[/cite]
Hiya Snow
yep disconnect lan would be good and run for over 4 hours 3-4 hours seems to be the crucial amount of time. Put the system under as much load as you can be bothered, if you don't get any problems after 4 hours I think we have narrowed down our culprit. I'll be away and won't be back till sunday night, but would really appreciate you doing this test. If we can narrow it down to internet related I think that would be very useful.

Hmm, yeah, curious to see what you guys come up with on this one. Right now, I am trying to think of a way that I can disconnect from the internet, but at the same time invoke some kind of repeat Console error message, such as the one I described with the thumbnail creation error above. It in itself wasn't an internet problem of course, but it happened because I was in the middle of downloading a video that needed a thumbnail created...sooo...kind of a catch 22, haha. I'll try to think of something though. There's a certain Office 2008 problem I am considering. Hmm...could Microsoft help us for once?