Today is the only time i have had it on auto or in case of my board use spd.
Although we both have kingston DDR 400 mine are 1 gig modules and quite frankly there are loads of manufacturers that the actual chips could have been made by, I think samsung is a favourite of kingston but certainly not the only one they use. You could only say we have the same memory if we compared numbers printed on actual chips.

I have set the memory slower than the spd setting but it never occured to me before that it might have something to do with firmware, I maybe totally barking up the wrong tree, I don't even know if osx does read memory firmware or if this is done purely by efi. But hell this seems to be the best "stablest" yet so who knows.

Man, you know a ton about RAM, I'll give you that! All I know is: makes shit run, and the more you have, the better the shit will perform, haha. Good to know, though. Thing is, I've only ever changed my memory settings ONCE and that was when you told me to do it. Since then, I've changed back...soooo...I dunno...:\

Hmmm, strange. Mind you I must say I still have HT link at 4x rather than 5x

This is confusing I think other than through trial and error as we are doing at the moment it would take someone like netkas or who ever wrote the efi patches for hacks to tell us the full story, but anyway so far so good my system is certainly behaving better than it did.
As for knowing about memory, you could say hardware is my obsession lol. I've been building PCs for about 13 years.

Hmmm that made me think - I wonder what would happen if I ran Leo without EFI? The last time I did this was with 10.5.1 rev1 and I can't recall whether or not I had any performance problems. If I can clear a spare drive, maybe I can give it a try with a standard MBR Leo 10.5.2 rev1 install. I think I'd have to take out my 8800GT, though, since it needs the graphics update to run properly (and updates are out of the question without EFI, right?). I can always swap it out for my old card, I guess. Does this sound like it would do any good as a test for our problems, or just a waste of time?

I wouldn't bother I ran 10.5.1 with efi and can't remember having this issue.
Though i must admit I ran tiger without efi and its the stablest thing I've ever used. Just used to piss me off cos reboot wouldn't work and there seems to be no chance of updating it to 10.4.11 everyone whos doing anything is doing it with leopard.

I must say though for all the shit we've been having we're running something on hardware it wasn't meant to be run on and its still better than vista. Always good to keep perspective.

I don't think my system is cured. No crashes but that roughness of the mouse movement is back and I've only been online one and a half hours. Boll*cks

Think I'm gonna build an intel rig next week.

You're definitely right on perspective.
So, I'm on hour 21-22 now and I just got done running some really stressful processes in Photoshop and Illustrator as a test. I took a look at my Console after a while, and to my dismay, I saw my first mDNSresponder "ticks" message. Ugh! I know now that it's all going down from here. This is the thing that I never want to see because as soon as it happens, the mouse gets rough. It's the same way you describe it Ian - not exactly jerky yet, but rough - though, if I leave it this way long enough it will eventually get jerky. So can you do me a favor? Can you look in your Console, make sure "All Messages" is clicked over on the left, and then do a a string search for "ticks" and see if anything comes up? I really hope we can at least find a common ground with that message if nothing else. That's my last hope of finding any explanation, though I don't even know what the "ticks" message means in terms of what's actually causing it other than system overload.

EDIT: I was thinking of building an Intel also, once I get some more cash. Thinking about using a GA-P35-DS3L for the board. What about you?

Similar but I was thinking of going for a cheaper version GA-31-S3G
its a lot cheaper but also uses the ICH7 controller I think that it will probably be more compatible with vanilla, but I could be wrong. Its only downside that I can see is max 4 gig ram. But hell I aint gonna buy more than that anyway probably wont use more than 2. On top of that I've been thinking about processors and quite frankly I think Im gonna use a e2160 on 1333 bus that would give me 3 gig processor for £44. Im not sure I can justify spending a hundred quid for 3 mb of cache.

As for console 32 clearing cs_valid messages but nothing else

Just a quickie: 28 hours uptime, still good. Only ran one tiny torrent and then I closed Transmission immediately. Didn't seed. I thought I was doomed when I saw a couple of "tick" messages, but they stopped happening all together, and my mouse is still fine. No crashes, except for one Safari crash that probably happened because of the site I was on. It started right back up, though. So no 10810s, nothing else to speak of. Either I got some stability from Netkas' AppleSMBIOS or the security update, or this is just one loooonnnggg 28-hour stream of good luck. Whatever it is, it's nice, and I won't complain. I'll also avoid torrents like the plague

Do you want me to push the RED button now Agra? It lasted long enough don't you think?

good news though bro, I'm happy for you cause I know you were about to change pets.

Take care

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