Lion with AMD - Page 67

gils · #1 07-15-2012, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheConnactic

Hello, everybody!

First of all, thanks to RAW x86 for his great job. Get the (still) latest osx on a (relativelly) cheap AMD machine is the pinnacle of hackintoshing.

I have lion 10.7.2 running 32-bit on an Athlon II x2 250 with bronzovka v4 kernel. It's nice and stable, just like someone else told. The main issues are that i had to swap the original finder with DP2 32-bit finder, and that even this solution has its bugs (doesn't copy/cut/paste/erase) so i had to install Path Finder.

I tried the update to 10.7.4 with both bronzovka v6 and RAW x86 latest kernels. With bronzovka's i couldn't even boot. With RAW's, as i have a non-Bulldozer CPU, i got 32-bit with that described permission bug. The result was somewhat worse than what i already got with 10.7.2, because the finder restrictions now affected Path Finder, installers and disk utility too, so i had to change back to 10.7.2.

But i'm AMD-stubborn, and i'm willing to effort an upgrade to a Bulldozer/Piledriver CPU to enjoy Lion in full 64-bit experience, besides it's a great CPU. Therefore i need to get the answers to some questions before making this upgrade:

1) The original lion finder will work out of the box, since the system will run at 64-bit? It's very annoying to resource to DP and path finders to get the work done;

2) 64-bit-only kexts and apps will work? The answer to this question may look obvious, but nothing in OsX86 is really the way it seems;

3) 32-bit apps will continue to work in 64-bit mode?

4) The core services and apps will stop being impossible to launch after x minutes from reboot? Another problematic point in lion with AMD;

5) The kernel will possibly work in a newer Piledriver CPU, since it's basically an enhanced Buldozer?

Thanks in advance for the answers!

hello,

like you, I'm Forcia AMD but you have to face the fact that Intel has chosen to make more sense.
The finding of FX is overwhelming, less effective than K10 x6, I fear that the arrival of the new FX 83xx is still worse than the first of the series! will be reduced to increase speed and to consumption at the same time for poor performance.

The same K10 x2/4/6 offered good performance on OS X while not working at all on certain application. AMD stock on OS X is very mixed, given the price / performance.

i3 2100 /100 € /65 w = x4 955/100 € /95/125 w> FX 4100/100 €/95/118 w!

E31230 /80 w/ 200 € >> 20 % !! FX 8150/125 w / 190 €

For you to see.

R:A:W:X86 · #2 07-18-2012, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheConnactic

With RAW's, as i have a non-Bulldozer CPU, i got 32-bit with that described permission bug. The result was somewhat worse than what i already got with 10.7.2, because the finder restrictions now affected Path Finder, installers and disk utility too, so i had to change back to 10.7.2.

I think that bug should be fixed with latest build - although some further testing is needed.

My own experience is that my Bulldozer Hackintosh is finally running very stable & I am able to use all my software without any limitations.

People with other demands (software I am not using etc) may have a differing expierence - dunno...

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But i'm AMD-stubborn

Me too.

Anyway Intel is the better way to go, if you consider using OS X as your main operating system.

For example keep in your mind, that we may never be able to run Mountain Lion on our AMD machines (this ain't that unlikely for some reasons), any system update can cause problems i.e. depencies that cannot be solved until the source code for a new Kernel version is released (often some week after the release of the corresponding system update) etc.

Of course if your mainboard would support a Bulldozer upgrade (bios update etc) & you want to use Lion, this could be a "cheap at purchase" alternative.

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1) The original lion finder will work out of the box, since the system will run at 64-bit? It's very annoying to resource to DP and path finders to get the work done;

Yes. 64-Bit software works.

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2) 64-bit-only kexts and apps will work? The answer to this question may look obvious, but nothing in OsX86 is really the way it seems;

No 64-Bit kexts.
The Kernel is i386 only. Kernel Extensions made for X86_64 Kernel only will not work.

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3) 32-bit apps will continue to work in 64-bit mode?

Yes but not 100% ootb.
Running 32-Bit software requires the SYSENTER opcode, which is not avaible on AMD CPUs in 64-Bit enabled system mode.
Sysenter traps have to be patched in dyld & libsystem_kernel.dylib for 32-Bit Apps to work in compatibility mode.

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4) The core services and apps will stop being impossible to launch after x minutes from reboot? Another problematic point in lion with AMD;

Those problems are -legacy mode only.

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5) The kernel will possibly work in a newer Piledriver CPU, since it's basically an enhanced Buldozer?

Most likely yes - of course: no warranty for anything related to those Kernel.

uchihaxyz · #3 07-19-2012, 07:27 AM

what is the function of -legacy ? and how can I drop it ?

silverkid · #4 05-26-2012, 10:35 PM

Anybody knows how to use kernel cache with AMD? It takes a while for my system to load every kext each time i boot... and i believe niresh did it with his boot flag ("Kernel Cache"=\amd)

tejaswi.rohit · #5 05-28-2012, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by silverkid

Anybody knows how to use kernel cache with AMD? It takes a while for my system to load every kext each time i boot... and i believe niresh did it with his boot flag ("Kernel Cache"=\amd)

I just added KernelCache=Yes in the boot.plist file. No problems as such,everything works fine and boots real quick

rizki_alkaf · #6 05-28-2012, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tejaswi.rohit

I just added KernelCache=Yes in the boot.plist file. No problems as such,everything works fine and boots real quick

woww! can you give me your spec, what lion version and kernel version you are using?

tejaswi.rohit · #7 05-29-2012, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rizki_alkaf

woww! can you give me your spec, what lion version and kernel version you are using?

AMD X6 1090T
AMD XFX 5770
Gigabyte 890-GPAUD3H

Mach_kernel V4
Lion 10.7.2
Chimera 1.9 bootloader

. I haven't specified any kernel cache folder but it works o.O

I have run pfix in myHack. That must have created the the cache for me in the correct folders just guessing

silverkid · #8 05-28-2012, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tejaswi.rohit

I just added KernelCache=Yes in the boot.plist file. No problems as such,everything works fine and boots real quick

I tried that, but it says i have to specify the kernel cache path. Then i tried building caches which gave me a kernelcache file. I put this file in root and booted with "Kernel Cache"=\kernelcache ...and instant reboot

So i'm at a loss here, please help

m28ew · #9 05-28-2012, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by silverkid

I tried that, but it says i have to specify the kernel cache path. Then i tried building caches which gave me a kernelcache file. I put this file in root and booted with "Kernel Cache"=\kernelcache ...and instant reboot

So i'm at a loss here, please help

run this command:

Code:

sudo kextcache -v 1 -a i386 -a x86_64 -m /System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kext.caches/Startup/Extensions.mkext /System/Library/Extensions

then boot normally ( without: -f )

all kexts have to be located in /S/L/E

EDIT:

if there're some kexts located in /E/E, then you can run this command

Code:

sudo kextcache -v 1 -a i386 -a x86_64 -m /Extra/Extensions.mkext /Extra/Extensions

ghostec · #10 05-26-2012, 11:02 PM

Does Photoshop CS6 and Premiere CS5 works with the FX? I saw in previous posts that it doesn't with phenoms.